The Martian – Andy Weir – Episode 57

The Buddies find themselves back in space, this time stranded on Mars in Andy Weir’s, The Martian. If you like science, trashing on disco, and journaling, this book is for you. If you like two guys who can barely read criticizing a widely popular book, well over their reading abilities, well then this podcast is for you. So join us as we talk suicide pacts, ‘working’ in the shower, and TI-89 calculator games.

Intro: (0:00-1:32)
Stock Up/Down (1:33-24:33)
Love/Hate (24:34-33:59)
Conclusion (34:00-36:22)

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club I’m Dylan here with my crewmate who
would never abandon me Keith what’s up
buddy never kid I’d go down with this
with this [ __ ] sorry my singing voice is
way off because it’s allergy season and
they are plaguing me right now these
damn allergies it just doesn’t make any
sense like why does God hate us I think
we’ve stalked down God before yeah it’s
really applicable here because it’s
beautiful out like Cape Cod we’ve been
dealing with winter it’s terrible like
you live in a vacation Community which
is wonderful except for the winter when
it’s just dreary and dismal and terrible
a lot of heroin usage yeah that’s true
it is Big heroin please thanks for the
thanks for the support but then it gets
beautiful you want to go outside and I’m
just like oh my God I can’t even
function outside can’t open the windows
can’t do anything back in Winter
whatever I’m not here to gripe because
here’s the Buddy book club we’re
breaking down some best sellers and this
week we’ll be discussing the Martian by
Andy Weir our third and final trip into
the Weavers I think because he doesn’t
have any other books and I mean fine
yeah for sure no final you’re putting
your space boot down yeah 100 well if
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Keith let’s just jump into this and
stock up Stockton everyone’s probably
seen the movie you got Matt Damon Kate
stock up the Martian what do you got
talk up Amazon oh the delivery service
or the forest no the delivery service
they want to do some ads you know we got
some ad spaces to sell yeah I go off the
cuff on some ad reads it’d be great I
would be I would be appropriate I
wouldn’t I wouldn’t swear I’d stick to
the copy for the most part so yeah hit
me up Jesus but they couldn’t send what
a couple of box of uh extra crispy
Cheez-Its and some protein bars up to
space like what are we doing here Oh you
mean like on the on the resupply yeah
the resupply they’re like we only have
like three months and like 50 people
working overtime on this what strap them
to a [ __ ] rocket and send it up there
what are we doing here it didn’t make
any sense to me I mean we’ve literally
been to space and landed people on the
moon using a [ __ ] TI and 89
calculator yeah is NASA terrible I mean
I’m gonna get to this later but like
stock down NASA stock down everything we
sent also in 1997 which is reference in
this book a thing there then nobody more
computing power and knowledge we have
this is supposed to take place in 2035
that’s 38 years later we can’t just
strap something to a rocket and send it
we’re really sending Crews on like
years-long voyages into space on these
ships we can’t just send off some food
with nothing manned on it it’s
embarrassing honestly I was I was
shocked by that stock down NASA stock up
Amazon if you give this to Jeffrey Bezos
he would have got it up there kid he’d
have done two-day delivery free of
charge that’s the part of the matter
tomorrow’s in two days I’m glad that you
stuffed this stock up and to stock down
in into one and I do have a question for
you that TI-89 Calculator that fueled
the Apollo flights did it have any of
the wonderful games that we had on ours
I can remember the drug one the drug one
was so good like a drug dealer game so
random but so amazing he was like oh you
jack up the price it was like no no
one’s buying anymore it was a great way
to learn economics honestly it really
was uh but there was like fall down I
remember that was big there was baseball
but the baseball is super easy but it
was also a good just like social aspect
because you’d get your calculator
because you had to get it for like
seventh grade math or whatever the case
was maybe it was ninth grade and you’d
have to find the smart person who like
already had the games yeah you could
like plug it in and pour it over it was
like trading Pokemon or something like
that so it was a nice little social
thing where like the Nerds were teaming
up with the jocks and the drama kids
because like everyone wanted to play it
was like I’m not gonna sit through math
without playing so it was just such a
great idea I forgot about that that’s a
good point didn’t really bring everyone
together my first stock up is uh you
know I’ve been doing this lately and
honestly if it comes to me I’m gonna do
it but uh the phrase uh too many cooks
in the kitchen spoil the broth because
what once NASA gets to communicate with
Watney they just start micromanaging
straight micro managed Vibes I hate it I
hated it and you know maybe I’m gonna
get fired for this but it’s kind of like
what we do with and whatever my
experience has been in Corporate America
where they’re like all right when you’re
charging time to your client if you’re
in the shower thinking about work that’s
work so charge time to the clients it’s
like I’m what like I’m yeah I might be
thinking about it but more of like
dreading the fact that I’m gonna have to
like start work but NASA does that with
the government’s budget your browsers as
a client by the way I didn’t know that
NASA comes in and they’re like all right
we have to justify the billions of
dollars the government’s getting us so
let’s just get 30 botanists to say that
what Watton is already doing is good or
give him some very slight suggestions
like wake up five minutes earlier it’s
like oh okay cool like what he’s got it
Mark Watney is a multi-talented man he’s
already showed you that he can figure
this [ __ ] out just give him a break
leave him alone all you’re doing is and
it goes for all micromanagers out there
all you’re doing is one pissing people
off and two making it so people can’t do
their work because they always have to
communicate back to you with what’s
happening just just give people some
free reign let them do it if they suck
you fire them if Watney fails he dies
but it’s his fault simple as that easy
peasy
yeah no I completely agree yeah get the
micromanagers out of there let uh let
them let them just work let them cook if
you will I would wonder how some
philosophers would think about this
problem in the sense of how much effort
and Manpower is going into saving Watney
oh yeah there’s so much money wasted so
yeah like whether that money how many
more lives could be saved on Earth if
that money was used differently pure
economics yeah and I do appreciate you
know the tone of the book itself which
is you know countries coming together
and like humans inherently want to help
each other which you can argue that fact
as well but I would be interested in
some like the old railroad whatever the
train coming in you can either save one
person or save three people kind of
thing what do you do because it kind of
is a philosophy argument in that sense
because I personally if I was watching
all this [ __ ] I’d be the pessimistic
person or whatever like you’re spend all
his money he’s probably even gonna die
anyways like go right go feed people
that are hungry also at the end of the
book he’s like reflecting he’s like yeah
then they spent hundreds of Millions on
me I’m like whoa whoa Millions Drive try
with a beak first of all inflation until
the 35 is high but just just taking off
on that spaceship that or whatever that
was on Mars planted there that is
hundreds of millions right there you
know that that’s how much that cost to
create that you know probably more than
that granted his knowledge of the stuff
that he learned on Mars would be useful
for sure but it set back the industry
because of all the stuff they’re using I
personally think Mark Watney came home
and like after a year serious alcohol
problem like maybe into some substances
with this the survivor’s guilt just
because he survived but at what cost
well it’s usually survivors got one
everyone else doesn’t survive though
yeah well I’m flipping it on its head
it’s when he survives and also then he’s
probably thinking I have to Now do some
miraculous [ __ ] because they spent all
these billions of dollars so just stay
at home and do nothing and so because
he’s all that pressure he just decides
to hit the bottle like extra heavy maybe
goes down to Cape Cod starts getting
into heroin
well this kind of ties right into it I
was gonna bring up the intro but you
could either do a year and a half worth
of eating potatoes plain and doing
science homework or pop a little that
morphine watch some TV maybe some
painkillers thrown in there I’m like
yeah give me that for a strong month and
die yeah that sounds better to me I
don’t know too too much no I would go
I’d go all in a bit I’m gonna survive
this is amazing I got this whole potato
thing planned one week later I’m more
female I am morphine addict I’m like
start you know I’m watching Three’s
Company disco on oh God yeah yeah oh I
would have a disco party with all these
drugs the fact that he wasn’t taking
more drugs was concerning to me he took
a sleeping pill and he was like oh I
woke up a little late the next day not
taking that again I’m like what else you
have to do bro like I’ll be popping
those like their Advil yeah painkillers
just melting into the couch on the hab
like smoking we’re not drug addicts if
those are listening no I’m saying in
this survival situation I mean there’s a
reason why in Vietnam all you know 15 of
American GIS were on heroin it was
terrible there and they said you know
this is a way to get out of it botany
what are you doing stepping up oh what
else strippers stock up kind of in line
being a coward stock up okay seemingly
everyone calls Teddy a coward I think
the the one female character that’s in
there that’s like the pr person which
every one of anywhere’s book has a cool
female who swears and talks about sex
openly it’s like I always feel very
uncomfortable because it just it just
seems so out of place why would the pr
person who’s supposed to be like all
buttoned up be like [ __ ] you you huge
don’t get what why are these people
talking like this in a business setting
doesn’t make any sense but yeah she’s
calls him a huge [ __ ] right to his face
in a big meeting the head of NASA mind
you don’t don’t worry about that and why
is he supposedly because he basically
was like oh I want these five astronauts
who are coming home to live I don’t want
to risk their lives by literally
swinging them around the earth having to
catch something and if it doesn’t catch
the right timing they die which we’ve
never practiced before never done any
tests on them sending them all the way
back which the ship is not built for
there’s like a billion variables that
they’ve never tested that they’re going
to now throw into the this mix and risk
five astronauts lives for it which well
what’s the probability of that working
probably pretty low and we literally
just saw Teddy launch something and
compromise by saying we’re going to
scrap all the preparation scrap all
these testing because it’s a 1 in 40
chance it fails we just saw that fail so
why would he go around and turn around
and then say well let’s take something
that’s much lower probability of
succeeding and use the same logic but
with five astronauts lives at risk and
to do that why was everyone getting mad
at him I was like no I would never do
that and then the last thing is like
they’re like it’s the astronauts
decision Deja decide well why don’t you
ask Watney then use the exact same logic
do you think Watney like hey what yeah
we’re gonna risk five astronauts lives
that we haven’t practiced it done
anything for this send them to go save
your life are you okay with that you say
no if he was a good person it’s watney’s
choice just as much of anything I like
Teddy he’s a good guy I did as well yeah
he was also the one that did like the
secret sent them like the jpeg that had
the secret message in it right
no no he that was the guy that was the
guy that coward think that yeah right
yeah right the other guy so you like
that guy I don’t like that guy what
happens if he sends that JPEG and then
their ship blows up on the way to Mars
yeah no no I get it I’m just a fan of
mutiny I just like the idea of mutinies
so I I appreciate that it’s back up mute
this is too much you know too much
buttoned up people following protocol
it’s just nice to see someone in a
billion dollar company that’s like [ __ ]
it I’m just gonna throw [ __ ] to the wind
uh my next stock up was potatoes and I
know you said that eating potatoes is
bubble gum shrimp or the root vegetable
world I mean you got baked potatoes you
got mashed potatoes you got potato salad
scallop potatoes roast potatoes crisp
potatoes french fries Hasselback
Potatoes pierogies hash browns gnocchi
the list goes on and on oh vodka of
course yeah sorry I’m surprised Wadi
didn’t even discuss that he’s like how
can I ferment these and like I wonder
what vodka and morphine does together
because this could be a party or you’ll
be like hey you know I could take this
painkiller and feel it or I could take
this half a painkiller with some vodka
and get a Year’s worth of of painkillers
much longer that’s smart plus all these
varieties I mean all the different
things you can make then you get a
different factorial if you consider in
all the different potato varieties I
know he only has one type of potato out
there but maybe like the poop bacteria
evolves them somewhat who knows who
knows how it works but honestly if
you’re stuck with one vegetable for a
few years it’s not a bad choice it may
be the best choice really I can’t think
of anything else that would be as
versatile and I know you’re gonna say
all the commenters because there’s so
many of you guys will be like yeah oh he
doesn’t have oil to fry stuff in like he
doesn’t have ways to make pierogies but
it’s gonna stuff the pierogies with you
know that’s what NASA should be working
yeah this is what I’m saying this is
what NASA should be doing be like hey
die in peace die happy with some
delicious potato things we’ll send them
to you no one’s coming to save you but
we’ll give you some fry oil you already
know how to make fire fry up some french
fries have some morphine and let that
have explode on you be great my last one
was uh just having a side hustle so
whether it be a booming podcast like the
pretty book club or writing a book on
your blog in a serialized fashion which
is what Andy Weir was doing because no
one was interested in his story he was
doing for shoots and gigs and the next
thing you know publishing rights are
being bought for a hundred thousand
dollars and then shortly thereafter it’s
getting made into a movie with Ridley
Scott directing Matt Damon at the helm I
mean come on his normal gay I think he
was like a program engineer some science
Computer Science Guy some you know but
good for him he was doing his normal day
job which he probably hated just like
everyone else does and decided he was
more passionate about this side Hustle
but it wasn’t making any money so he
said I’m just gonna throw it out there
to the world for free and even after
words once people were like hey can we
get a book version of this he did it for
the people he released like a Kindle
version on Amazon or whatever for a
dollar which is like the lowest amount
you can offer it for he was just doing
it for the people like hey this is fun
for me like I’m enjoying that you guys
are enjoying it just like we do here at
the BBC you know we don’t ask for
anything besides like some communication
we’re sending beacons out there like to
Mars hoping for somebody to write back
you know a little validation wouldn’t
hurt here and there uh what do you ever
stock down stock down suicide pack
wait what did I die backs are kind of
cool that’s a cool thing so I mean
am I maybe I’m just dumb is that when
you agree to kill yourself yeah everyone
agrees to go in and kill themselves oh
okay it’s a pact yes I packed okay in
this book and you might have missed it
because it’s so casually mentioned but
on the slingshot if the slingshot around
the earth if they are not able to
acquire the China space rocket that
they’re adapting to shoot up yeah
because that seems like a much more
realistic plan than just sending food
with with Jeffrey Bezos but if they’re
unable to acquire that that means the
food would run out too quickly so that
there’s an immediate suicide pact they
all to kill themselves with suicide
pills oh so the the woman can eat them
right yeah and it’s dropped in there
quickly so that they can eat their dead
bodies that is the plan that’s what we
came up with they all agreed that let’s
turn around the ship around and if we
ourselves immediately we just spent a
year and a half with NASA working on
with Mark Watney to figure out how to
survive live and they’re literally this
first thing is let’s just kill each
other let’s immediately kill each other
I don’t even have morphine on the thing
which I can agree with if they’re all
just gonna go a huge trip to end it just
face each other with something sharp
like all right on three stab on three
one two three we have a whole book on
their solution to survive and they just
casually drop yeah we’ll just kill each
other that’s fine it’s whatever and that
and then they don’t really even get into
the whole science of if you’re taking a
suicide pill to poison yourself and kill
yourself then it goes bad right you
can’t eat a poisonous thing or you’ll be
poisoned yourself like this is a simple
101 cannibalism stuff that mean you
would talk oh yeah sure but they’re not
and NASA or idiots they’re not even
thinking about this they also say that
the animal is scared or something like
that it you know release releases
cortisol and stuff it doesn’t
necessarily poison stuff but it tastes
the meat so it’s not as delicious right
so it’d almost be fun in this situation
to have more of like an assassins type
game like remember that game you played
in high school with like water guns yeah
you have killed your friends yeah
exactly but it’d be like on the ship
well you got to be entertained if you’re
all gonna die anyways like you might as
well be right for the trip back and also
maybe someone wouldn’t scare them so
it’s like all right we have to kill each
other for real but you know if we don’t
know when everyone gets a different name
it’s really exciting they could have
made it a little more creative I had
some fun with it from Magic podcast that
we did with anywhere magic said yeah you
just take a bunch of morphine and you
strap out into space and you just let
the oxygen take you you freezes your
body preserves the meat and your night
you had a nice [ __ ] trip to end your
life I think that’s the easiest way to
do it right then bring that that body
back in you chop it up put in the
freezer find the the filet mignon you
know you go to town and that you just
you know thanks a lot human back strap I
thought watney’s death plan was pretty
solid which was the nitrous oxide one
because
he they explained it in the book
scientifically which must be fun to uh
research you probably get flagged from a
bunch of government websites yeah but
the idea being that your body doesn’t
lack of oxygen it doesn’t know that
necessarily it’s really just like a
buildup of carbon dioxide or something
so if you just take a bunch of nitrous
oxide you just kind of like have a good
time and then pass out and suffocate
yeah but it’s not like terrible like
drowning or something like that which is
weird why we don’t do that like instead
of lethal injection and you know all the
other ways we really kill people yeah
there must be a better way right like
electric chair it seems like the one the
worst possible way to like kill someone
that makes more sense at least yeah well
the only problem with firing squad is
you gotta hope that the one person that
has the bullet actually is Sharpshooter
because if they hit you in like the neck
and you’re just like ah like that’d be
pretty brutal a very badly bad
uh my only stock down is I guess disco I
mean it’s talked about negatively enough
that I’m convinced it’s terrible even
though honestly I really enjoyed disco I
think disco is this is a fun what’s like
give me a disco songs I don’t really
know what like what what is disco music
I don’t even know what that means you
don’t know what disco is I’m thinking of
Macho Macho Man give me what’s your top
discos I’m like trying to think of what
disco is so I’m thinking Abba they’re
like very disco-y oh you gotta sing it
Earth Wind and Fire sing me a song Magic
speaking of magic his mom’s favorite
song September uh September
that’s disco yeah that’s so great
Dancing Queen Le Freak by Chic oh Le
Freak
yeah in that song
okay okay yeah yeah that party’s really
coming together that we were talking
about Boogie Wonderland Great song
Boogie Woogie Woogie and I just can’t
Boogie no more I want that like this hot
stuff hot stuff like this goes this goes
great especially on painkillers Mark
wadney like you should be what are you
doing no just kidding just kidding about
that part it seemed weird that there was
a lot of humor around him [ __ ] on
Disco and I know it was like he was
joking a bit serious if I was stuck with
some music disco would not be in my
bottom five I wonder what would be maybe
like death metal I think I think country
would be awful I love country music like
I hate to love it I like country too but
I like country in a certain mood if I’m
like on a deserted ice planet that
there’s no chance of survival I don’t
want to hear like sitting on my back
porch enjoying a beer with my dog yeah
there’s a lot of talk about like Red
Dirt riding you know with country music
oh which is what he was doing yeah yeah
okay so you throw that on when you’re
like driving yeah there is some like
random good feels though it’s still
country’s good fields which is I need
some negative negative Darkness to
escape Into My Heroine yeah you want so
you want the death metal that’s like the
last yeah yeah of course it’s like yes
you’re taking like Rob Zombie and slip
knot and stuff like that plus it’s like
for head banging and like getting in a
crowd and [ __ ] [ __ ] up so you don’t
really want to be [ __ ] [ __ ] up when
you’re on in the half well that’s what
they would play when they’re doing like
the suicide pack I also don’t understand
they’re like we’re only about a certain
amount of media it’s like it’s 235 you
know how much uh 100 terabytes of ram
cost it’s like 100 bucks that’s like our
memory like you could put every piece of
media You Ever Wanted into a a thing by
then like they’re gonna have plenty of
space it’s not like I only have techno
that’s all I can do the way things are
progressing and how much smaller storage
space is it just would make no like
exactly like you said you could have a
terabyte of data which is a shitload for
if you’re talking just music you could
have everything you could have anything
you wanted it what are you guys talking
about here you know you’re not stuck
with disco like everybody can have
everything they also didn’t talk about
pornography aspect but I’m sure there
was I’m sure there was a little bit of
that there’s a little bit of that why do
you didn’t want to say because he’s
telling what all this stuff he’s
stealing from other people but in his it
was just a terabyte of porn that was it
all I know is how do you think Watney
sealed to have with his terabyte of data
that’s for sure
yeah one hot rope after another do you
have any other stock Downs last one and
this is more just like hate straight up
science stock down I just don’t care
honestly anymore this is really why I
don’t ever want to read one of these
books I just don’t care it’s honestly
the way the book is written is it’s like
someone that’s super super into chess
playing by themselves explaining what
moves they would do against themselves
like that’s what the whole book is I get
it like the first half where he used to
explain stuff I thought it was actually
interesting when we get to the the
second half we do the exact same thing
and there’s no more like like talking
back with NASA and all that stuff gets
cut and it’s just science I’m like yeah
yo I don’t care at all imagine if we’re
watching or reading Armageddon the great
movie Armageddon which is all
scientifically accurate obviously
imagine like Bruce Willis and Benny
Affleck were just during the drilling
scene just talking about angles and
drilling you know Necessities instead of
just being like Harry trust me this one
time you know the movie would have been
awful no one wants to hear this stuff we
get that you’re into it and we I think
it’s it’s valid where like you sprinkle
it in but if it’s just that the whole
time I just like had it in the
background at the end of the book
because I just didn’t care anymore I was
like this is so stupid yeah I mean I had
this again of my hates but the literally
the worst part of the book is that we
spend eight of the 10 hours talking
about realistic science and then we end
the book with them planting bombs on the
ship and shooting off into space and
doing these all these like incredibly
dumb and practical things in this book
That’s supposed to be set in this
realism of science it’s like what kind
of book is this like why’d you just
spend eight hours telling me all these
like why you do this stuff based on
science and then just the end being like
well [ __ ] it let’s just do whatever the
the ending of the book like what what
are you doing yeah I was listening to
this book mostly because it’s it’s
spring here like I said I was listening
to this book mostly As I was dethatching
my lawn which basically is just raking
my lawn but like okay in very small
sections I have and I had broken it
based on like how many pickets in the
fence right so there’s sections eight
foot sections of the fence so as he’s
doing this I’m like doing the same
mental cat because it’s like hard work
it’s terrible and I’m listening to this
which is like kind of the same thing and
so I was like breaking it up
scientifically like okay it takes me one
hour to do this one section there’s 24
sections this is going to take me 24
hours to do as he was doing it and since
you since you started this I’m gonna get
into my only love and my only hate
my love was just that it had it it had
moments and I think specifically like
you said at the beginning okay how’s he
gonna figure this out and the science
aspect there was more of like planning
stuff and it was like oh okay like I see
that angle like this is interesting okay
I get it I get it let’s nice dig that
part that was fun I did also you didn’t
like the end I liked the ending because
it was more theatrical and fun you know
so it got away from the like practical
signs and more into like let’s just do
some crazy [ __ ] and hope it works you
know Iron Man yes I’m totally down let’s
do that idea but the middle that’s my
hate because hearing someone explain
what they’re doing in a play-by-play
format for 11 hours
honestly was terrible and after
listening to this though I feel like I’m
ready for when I have kids and you have
to sit at youth soccer game for two
hours next to the white New Balance and
your dad explaining his lawnmower issues
he’s like yeah my lawnmower won’t start
I checked the spark plugs they look
properly gapped so I thought it might be
the air filter I couldn’t find a new one
for my model so I cleaned out the old
one still no luck I did leave it over
the winter with old gas in it so I added
some fuel stabilizer since I was
tinkering I decided to balance and
sharpen the blades turns out food
stabilizer did the trick bad boy fired
right up what types of grass do you like
to grow in the Northeast I think
Kentucky Bluegrass is actually quite
good for a zone six climate it’s it’s
like that’s amazing
that’s my Will Wheaton impression that
was perfect oh my God it was like that
for 11 hours it was just so it’s like
sciencey sciencey thing science anxiety
thing oh it worked awesome red more
disco yay disco sucks it’s like oh my
God [ __ ] a
so yeah first two hours I was into it
the middle part I was like get me out of
watney’s head it was like get me out of
his head I enjoyed when we go back to
NASA to at least hear something
different and at least different idea
but get just get me out of waddy’s head
it didn’t need to be 11 hours and I’m
sure there is a demo of people out there
who loved this it’s that Dad that new
balance that new balance that yeah yeah
yeah good God so what would you love I
think you already mentioned the
beginning was fun there was certainly
parts that were good and that’s why it
makes a great movie is because it is a
really well thought out outside the box
idea yeah very well researched I wish
you know how like they saw on a bridge I
wish I had The Abridged version and I
would have been like this is pretty good
yes you know just cut his soliloquies in
half and I’m probably in yeah
I also I had a question for you this is
I mean that’s part of love but not
really but is there anything you think
in actual science that would draw the
attention that seemingly Mark Watney
Drew where like the whole world is
watching him and there’s a daily watch
segment on CNN you think there’s
anything that actually draw the interest
like that outside of this like you’re
saying someone getting lost on Mars but
you know what’s going on oh I mean even
that I don’t think people would care I
think they’d be like oh yeah the guy’s
up there and we’re working on it all
right cool what I don’t know like didn’t
they like announce like aliens are real
and people are like yeah whatever yeah
the UFOs the UFO stuff yeah nobody even
care that wasn’t even a big story it was
just like whatever they had the Panama
papers which was like all of this data
of people putting money in offshore
funds like people and companies putting
money in offshore funds like tax evasion
stuff people didn’t even care there’s
just too much going on right now in
Mindless entertainment in Real
Entertainment and everything that I
couldn’t imagine the whole world
stopping and this is the third trip to
Mars too this isn’t wasn’t the first
either which would be like okay we’re
over this I think if there was an
Armageddon type situation that would oh
yeah of course but that’s not science
that’s world ending that’s not like well
that’s being discovered we landed on a
new planet maybe you know no but that’s
what I’m saying is it’d be all of the
trips to like go to the asteroid to blow
it up or yeah okay to land people on it
basically saying the only way we’d be
interested Ben Affleck and Bruce Willis
went into space and tried to blow up an
asteroid yes we could only send Drillers
kid yeah we’re not sending we cannot
teach astronauts to drill that doesn’t
make any sense uh so that was your love
what about hate so I actually wanted to
do some research and I was like how big
is Mars it seems like he’s driving
around everywhere I’m like that’d be
pretty tough to do and one of the
official NASA site and I looked it up
and it says Mars is
216 miles just half the size of the
Earth okay and then they use this great
comparison if Earth were the size of a
nickel Mars would be about as big as a
raspberry
that’s something official site of how to
compare them what raspberries come in
all shapes and sizes I mean I know
there’s probably worse analogy I’ve ever
heard first of all you didn’t even keep
it in the same food group they weren’t
like this is the size of a grape this is
the size of a I don’t I don’t know it
was so befuddling to me oh this is who
writes the book like people that can’t
use an analogy that makes any sense yeah
like your grape analogy all right let me
do let me restate it and make it a
clementine versus a grape that would
make sense right you understand the two
sizes of those uh yeah relatively
they’re in a fruit parent right or if
you said a quarter and a nickel you’d
make sense but a nickel and a raspberry
don’t make any sense first of all
raspberry is actually a sphere a nickel
is not a sphere we’re not a
two-dimensional and to me I think a
nickel and a raspberry are about the
same size yeah that’s what I thought too
so I didn’t get it either so anyways
science doctor Interstellar did it
better so it doesn’t open the hate order
of the book why was the beginning part
just like in the middle the book I
didn’t get that uh the movie did it much
better where they actually just did it
in sequential order which made sense and
then at the end of the book he just like
adds random Journal stuff get me done
with this book I almost quit out I was
like I’ve gone this long I’ll finish it
but this is so stupid I was in the I was
in the shower during that part so uh
still doing your client research
yeah exactly so I paused the browsers
and said you know what I I should I
should finish I should finish this and
then you also should have finished the
book
yeah exactly
I should finish to Mark Watney talking
about what what he liked to eat in space
yeah yeah I just said you know what it’s
it’s like 20 minutes left this is going
to be like the top 10 worst Showers of
my life but I have to finish this book
so I I was with you there I was dead I
didn’t need an appendix I was good uh
what else did you hit the problem again
with these abandoned island or solo
people by themselves is they don’t
really make great books in my opinion
they make better movies because the
movies you can literally visually see
what’s going on and what’s happening to
them whereas the book I just was like
okay he’s like yes this work well
there’s eight hours of the book left so
something’s gonna go wrong and now I’m
just like all right I guess I’ll wait
for that to kind of just boring
otherwise you know it doesn’t come
together so that’s why I like when there
was back and forth in politics within
NASA and all the stuff that was going on
there and them communicating and that
was at least more entertaining because
there’s something going on the Storm was
like this huge thing it was like oh this
storm’s gonna really [ __ ] him up like
I’m excited for the storm to happen he’s
like I put a probe in six mile radius
around me and guessed where the weather
was going and I drove around it it’s
like ah all right good for you bro nice
one yeah I do think there’s probably
some you know Matthew McConaughey
probably enjoyed parts of it for like
having to like pee in your vehicle
considering he has that funnel in his
car that he pees out of you know pooping
in a bucket that sounds kind of fun if
you haven’t had to poo or pee while
driving like stuck in traffic really
hungry for you uh you know sometimes
Nature Calls you know Nature Calls and I
answer so things have happened but uh I
appreciate that stuff although I feel
like there might be some like vomit
situations going on with all the rough
terrain who knows maybe uh took some of
those Dramamine pills that I’m sure they
had back Beck had in his case uh did you
have any other hates the characters and
like the two sentences we got on
background story about them which I was
like well I even include this this is
stupid yeah it was like
yeah and like you should tell that girl
you like her on the ship I’m like who
the [ __ ] are these people we don’t even
know who they are like what do you why
would I care you know and this person
has is like devoutly Catholic and has
kids okay what what does that mean gives
a [ __ ] and you can’t picture them
because I think Andy Weir said he didn’t
include like descriptions really of the
characters like what they look like
because it like didn’t matter to the
story and neither did any of the other
stuff about them so one part no there’s
nothing that mattered in any way they
could have been robots for yeah they
really couldn’t although like Commander
Lewis
I thought was the most fleshed out out
of any of them and maybe just because
she likes disco but but you know that
aspect of it but even the letter back to
her husband was like and then I found
this disco thing that no one else can
find like oh I bet it was the like
version three collection right it’s like
yep the original one okay nerd alert
yeah
would you recommend the Martian Keith no
I’m done with I’m done with these books
I’m done with them if you had to give
one the Martian Artemis or project Hail
Mary what would you say probably project
Hail Mary I mean I think the alien stuff
was cool with that at least it was more
science that wasn’t even real where they
just made something up in that and then
did science around the made up thing for
the whole book my ranking would go
project Hail Mary the Martian and then
Artemis Artemis was just which really
Morris yeah exactly artists are just
terrible well he does have a cool female
lead who swears and does sex jokes
exactly I wouldn’t recommend the Martian
either it’s just so weird everywhere
there’s a period in time where everyone
was reading this book you know which is
kind of the reason why I want to do it I
was like it’s also a Reddit favorite
Artemis was terrible projectile Mary was
better so the Martian must be good
because everyone loved it and and
especially I couldn’t imagine reading
this book like Will Will Wheaton reading
it to me was not that great but imagine
reading like actually putting your eyes
to a page and reading all of this
explanation stuff my eyes would roll
back in my head and I’d just be drooling
like it would be terrible I’d go into a
coma and I thought well we I thought he
did a good job bad boy fired right up
but that’s how it’s written though I
mean he’s doing exactly the voice of how
it’s written yeah I agree I agree okay
well that was the Martian uh I hope you
didn’t read the book but listen to the
Pod because we definitely had some fun
fun here with that uh what’s coming up
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Timothy what is it called hair to the
Empire air yeah it’s air h-e-i-r I’m not
French kid I’m American hair
hair to the crown hair to the Empire by
Timothy Zahn it’s basically supposed to
be what should have been episode seven
well that’s what the internet says yeah
well it’s written it has Luke and Leia
in it yeah Luke landhan are the are the
main characters hair to the empires
Timothy’s on yeah I pronounce it heir to
the Empire
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