Swordfish – MOVIE – Episode 72
The Buddies were all goosed up to watch the 2000’s action movie Swordfish. The Buddies are currently reading the lengthy, Leviathan Wakes (and in the midst of the NFL season), but wanted to discuss the controversial movie for all the listeners that have been begging for it. The Buddies discussions/arguments got them talking about the name ‘Stanley’, the cleanliness of tequila shots, and the 60 second countdown. So live a life where nothing is beyond you. Do what only other fantasizes about, and join the Buddies as they discuss the epic/horrible (depending on who you ask) action thriller Swordfish.
Intro: (0:00-1:29)
Stock Up/Down (1:30-22:47)
Love/Hate (22:48-33:12)
Studio Notes/Reviews (33:13-37:03)
Conclusion (37:04-40:21)
Next Book: LEVIATHAN WAKES by JAMES S.A. COREY
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all right welcome bubdy book club I’m Dylan here with a man that exists in a world beyond our world Keith what’s up buddy Dylan he’s driven unflinching calculating machine he takes what he wants when he wants Dem man oh good God we’re breaking out some box office bangers and this week we’ll be discussing another hit from 2001 we’ previously done Saving Silverman this time around we’re doing John trav’s award-winning film swordfish if you’d like to recommend a book or movie for us to read or watch you can visit our website buddybook club.com or. DMS on Twitter or Instagram buddybook Club podcast you can listen to us on iTunes Spotify wherever you get your podcast so please download And subscribe Keith this is a recommendation from you 2001 to put it in perspective for the listeners we were 14 at the time 13 14 yep so this is a seminal film from your you youth that you wanted to revisit and obviously because swordfish is it’s it’s on the button for all the clicks you wanted to do this this movie right I wrote a RW tomato variant on it I thought everyone loved this movie cuz I saw it on TNT like 100 times when I was growing up and I just assumed everyone liked it and I’ve been thrown by people and they’re like no that movie sucks I might be in for a realization that I’m maybe by myself on an island here defending this this movie so we’ll see all right uh let’s just jump into some stock up stock down Keith stock up what do you have for swordfish stock up the name Stanley and oh there might not be a lot of Revelations in this pod I think I’ve actually cracked some sort of code here okay I don’t actually really know anyone named Stanley I think I’ve known a couple stands if you meet a Stanley or ever come across a Stanley it’s going to be the exact same person and I can break it down for you they nerdy people that are overlooked that become Heroes that’s every single Stanley in the world as far as I know yeah we got Stanley jobson AKA Wolverine he’s a hacking nerd that becomes a hero Dr Stanley Goodspeed from The Rock a nerdy scientist that becomes a hero indeed we got Stanley ipus AKA The Mask a shy Banker that becomes a hero yeah he’s not even a banker he’s just a bank teller Stanley yel nits the fourth oh from from the holes our first book a shy overweight nerdy kid that becomes a hero we got Stanley Hudson from the office this one’s a little that’s okay a nerdy sales guy who hates his job that does everything he can to get out of work a hero the people’s hero for sure exactly so stock up the name Stanley anytime you run across a Stanley stick with that person he’s a nerd that’s going to be a hero we love Stanley’s stock up Stanley yeah it’s interesting that we could have literally done any of the other movies that you had chosen by God by God you say one bad thing kid I told you I’ll fly off the handle like you read about uh I got to think of some other Stanley but yeah it’s a good one honestly it is a good one uh my first stock up is this one will get you in the feels but my crappy facial hair stock up so you and I can’t really grow a man shots at me well you can tell your story if you want when someone [ __ ] on your facial hair I can grow the like hipstery beard that’s pretty much as far as as I can get and it’s unfortunate you know I really wish I could have that that thick facial hair although I don’t really ever have to shave you know my dad’s the kind of guy like 5:00 shadow comes out by 9:00 a.m. he’s a man don’t want yeah he is a real man but you don’t want that I don’t really want that either but I think I’d rather have what I have than whatever’s going on in this movie because Travolta’s facial hair is something I have not seen before anywhere like I didn’t even know it existed and it’s something about John traval in his movies he always has some weird facial hair going on I mean in taking P 123 he’s got the handlebar not not necessarily that weird but it’s still a big handlebar mustache on John Travolta Battlefield Earth he’s got the goatee I don’t know if you’ve seen the movie The forger or heard about it but he has this teeny tiny chin goatee that you have to see to believe it it would take like a microscope in order for you to actually shave that perfectly like it makes no sense it’s like the size of a dime on his chin it’s very confusing I think in general probably for Travolta cuz you know he’s a serious actor or at least he fancies himself as such I think he probably gets in the makeup chair and they’re like all right so we’re just going to give you a little makeup you know maybe do something with the hair and he’s like no no no I’ve studied the character this is the facial hair they have and then the people are like oh I I don’t I don’t know about this but they just let him go with it in this one I think because this movie was made in 2001 and for the ladies Landing strips were in fashion I I think Travolta had been like watching a little too many skinx movies at night you know a little too much passion Cove and he just got in the chair the next morning goes I need a landing strip on my chin that’s what I need and they were like what and he’s like it’s never been done before let’s break ground I don’t know if it works or it doesn’t work but it’s it’s something else it draws the eye okay he lives in a world beyond our world I don’t know what you don’t get about this you only fantasize by what he does okay is he like snapping chalk lines on his chin so he can get that thing straight every day like doesn’t this guy have too much on his plate he shits on Hugh Jackman he’s like oh nice suit when he comes in I’d be like nice face bro like look at your face you have like a sir Lancelot haircut with highlights in it he looks straight out of Monte Python and the Holy Grail on the head and then the chin is a legit landing strip and I watched this with the wife here we had a discussion pretty much the entire movie about is it real is it taped on by the makeup people is it fake like is it colored by them like are they dying this little pube strip on his chin it was a conversation aad kid it’s all of aade it was part of the misdirection yeah he didn’t have it at the end and actually he looked a lot heavier so I was wondering I was like wow is a landing strip on your chin slimming is that is that like wearing vertical stripes you know yeah uh what else do you have for stock up monologues stock up I like the beginning monologue you probably hated it I liked it as well I love monologues that start especially coming from the bad guy I think that’s a great way to start a movie because it kind of sets the tone think of like The Departed or Good Fellas where they have the the monologue to begin it’s typically from the bad guys perspective or like the the person that’s going to be committing crimes or things like that a lot of what they say is like oh I kind of actually agree with that and the the monolog here is great where then you zoom out and he’s in the middle of a bank robbery great I loved it I mean you can also look at other monologues like the Lord of the Rings is more like a narration or Star Wars narration right yeah that’s more Exposition it gets you amped up gets you locked in more than anything else so I loved it I’m honestly just blown away that you used Lord of the Rings Star Wars departed and Goodfellas in the same sentence as swordfish they are all up there I I agree they’re all all up there it’s phenomenal you’re able to do that yeah thank you the thing I liked most about the opening monologue which I did enjoy but it’s so funny how he’s talking about realism how like stories should be like realistic and whatnot and then this movie continues and it’s like oh he wasn’t talking about this movie he was just talking about movies in general because this movie what are we talking about I what was unrealistic what we what we looking at here I’ll go to my next stock up which is uh skipping out on your parole so our buddy Stanley here takes Hal Berry’s car and goes to find his daughter and they’re in California and he’s not supposed to leave Texas I guess based on his parole one he elbows an FBI agent in the face and then takes the other FBI agents on a chase down a hill which no one should have left unscathed they were rolling down that Hill for 3 minutes I added in my hate section I was like wow they’re still rolling like oh now there’s a tarp it should have been cut they shouldn’t have ever had that scene that was terrible I agree it was it was just like you’re watching their legs like turn in Crazy directions I’ll give you one kid that’s one that’s it then he’s like all right are you arresting me and they’re like no we’re not arresting you you’re not catching the small fish kid but they don’t even know who he’s working exactly that’s where they’re letting him go it’s not like you think that the FBI agents are arresting the the guy that’s selling drugs on the corner no they’re like let’s follow that guy see where he goes that’s what they’re doing but they could have just like said all right where are you going back to and Then followed that guy all they needed was the address but once they arrest the guy they’re like oh where’s our hacker I guess he’s not here he’s caught we got to move operations they just killed a dude in an FBI office they can get anywhere they want you’re thinking realistically this movie is not realistic they it’s very realistic well they already lost the number one hacker in the world who got into Federal custody they have no idea what he said to those feds John’s like no we’re still good we’re green okay so I think if they at least get some info out of our boy Stanley then they could do the same thing also I’m kind of surprised every single other person and also do this later threatens Stanley with hey don’t you want to see your daughter and they could have just done it right there they could have been like hey you want to see your daughter they don’t know what he’s involved in they don’t know anything the FBI agent all they know is he came off a plane with the mysterious person and they’re like what do these people up to and we know something’s going down we need to figure out more so let’s let him go go back now we’re going to take pictures and follow them around that’s what they did that seemed like pretty smart to me I I don’t know sure sure sure we don’t sh me don’t don’t you dare sh me all right well what else do you have for stock up last stock up Dominic Cena the director you’re going to hate on this guy but he made two of the best films in the 90s Gone in 60 Seconds and swordfish I mean they’re right up my alley they’re perfect Keith 13 14y old movies I just wanted a quick shout out to him to uh R and tomato variances two great movies I just don’t want to be confused here I don’t need the movie to be realistic I can thoroughly enjoy a shoot him up action movie you know like gun in 60 seconds is that and yeah I love gun 60 seconds I would rewatch G in 60 seconds they’re jumping cars over Bridges and stuff like that in G in 60 seconds they’re murdering people over not getting 50 cars in yeah yeah 49 out of 50 you know people love this stuff I mean the the Fast and Furious franchise is is huge and they’re jumping cars out of buildings onto helicopters and let’s not compar furious’s unrealistic to this I’m just saying that I can suspend disb belief for a bit by last one you we had kind of alluded to this earlier is in medor res which is a narrative style where the narration starts Midway through the story and that’s what this does with the opening scene at the cafe honestly the best part of the movie not even necessarily the monologue which I thought was was good but just kind of how you’re thinking oh these are three people and you know it’s Don cheel and Hugh Jackman and John travol like oh these are Big actors the main characters presumably who are they they’re sitting around this table everyone’s captivatingly listening to John Travolta and then all of the sudden they’re in this bank robbery hostage situation it was like oh okay what the [ __ ] happening here and you kind of knew obviously that this was going to go backwards but it definitely got me on the hook for okay how did we get here I wanted to know I’m a kind of a big fan in general of that narrative style when it comes to movies I’m not sure necessarily how many books Vince Flynn had one of them books that did that and I hated it my mom and stepfather came to visit recently and he had a another library book out another Vinnie Flynn novel after I got him on transfer of power oh wow he’s just like crushes these and love that I asked him I was like I was like oh how was it he was like oh yeah good good good stuff I was how many Vince Flynn novels have you read and he looks at me dead serious he goes does it matter great answer perfect answer you’re you’re 100% right and I was like which ones he goes same answer like he’s like I have no idea I don’t know as many as it takes for him to save the us over and over again he’s like I have no idea the names of them it’s very familiar to me it’s not the same story over and over again warm blank yeah exactly it’s just it’s just going to hang out with Mitch rap for a bit Yeah so I really appreciate that because that’s exactly how how we feel about it let’s get into stock down what do you stock down Edward Snowden and this is where the realism comes comes from Kid if Eddie Snowden just watched this movie from 2001 he wouldn’t be in the situation our boy Stanley does exactly an Edward Snowden but in 2001 he hacks the FBI and releases all this data on them reading emails and going against basically like privacy laws that’s what Edward Snowden did we’ve took away his passport and we want to kind of get him back well we want to murder him for treason right yeah our boy Stanley did the same thing so I mean talk about realism this movie predicted it he got 18 months well I don’t know if he went public with it I think the difference ever not is he took the stuff went to another country to release it yeah it was a little more duplicitous than uh is that a word yeah it it is a word I don’t know if you Ed it correctly but it’s a great word thank you appreciate that you’re welcome uh yeah I thought it was kind of interesting that he got 18 months for it I feel like they would have said okay you were in Wired Magazine you have some altruistic ideas you wanted to expose this so you know he’s not like a bad person right couldn’t you flip him and bring him in do you think the FBI NSA and CIA have gotten better since then he’s all he’s going to do is uncover more stuff that he doesn’t want to see and then want it to whistleblow so why would they bring him in for that two ways of going about it one hey you’re going to save people go into like hack into terrorist networks whatever the cases along with the theme of this movie or two you just say the simple thing that gets him going every time do you ever want to see your daughter again do you ever want to see her again you can work for us I like the conversation him and Don Cheeto had well I just had to do what I had to do and he said well I had to do what I had to do and he’s like we’re just both doing what we had to do I like that there some philosophical thing there is like we’re at a principal there’s nothing he could do he had to do that he had to release the data because he he felt it was he was obliged to whereas Don CH has to do his job so everyone’s doing their job yeah he’s like Omar from The Wire it’s like a man’s got a C that’s his code yes it is very similar to the wire this this movie it’s a good point I agree with that yeah you’re making some good points to you man H uh my first stck down tequila shots I’m not much of a shot taker these days uh and by not much I would say not at all if I did succumb to peer pressure traditionally I would ask for a chilled tequila shot you know nothing better put some tequila ice Shaker a little lime salt whatever the case is I would have it straight I’m okay with that you know but the lime and salts just really nice you know it the process of a tequila shot it’s fun for everyone right yeah but not anymore after one of Gabriel’s ladies baby birds a warm tequila shot and Jackman’s mouth and it’s like half in his mouth half dribbling down his chin I couldn’t sleep last night I watched this movie yesterday I couldn’t sleep last night I was like oh my God that’s so disgusting like not only for The Germ aspects like this woman is who who knows you know what I mean she’s obviously of ill repute based on the things she was doing afterwards but the germ factor and then also just having warm tequila just like sitting on your tongue for a while I didn’t like it very much and it really turned me off the idea of tequila for bit if this is like promoting not drinking this movie then they’ve done a good job because I’m out I’m out it’s just so soft but yeah it’s one of the softest things I’ve ever heard you’re into that you want you want someone baby burden I like the scene I think that was my favorite scenes in movie yeah let’s just talk about the scene itself it’s first of all have you never done like a body shot or anything like that no I’ve have not you have I presume based on the the I’ve seen him done I don’t think I’ve done one you post that like everyone has done a body well they look I wish I was invited to one of them I’m just over in the corner watching yeah I’ve seen a friend’s wife take a body shot off of one of our other friends which was very confusing but that happened one time but so I was present for that I think that that’s a fun scene that’s a fun time you’re watching on a Tuesday night while eating your chicken and rice dinner it’s a little different than going out Friday night on an ecstasy you know that’s what that’s that’s what that is that’s what they’re all there doing excuse me we watched Jeopardy while we ate dinner I got the popcorn and then we watch swordfish okay we got to get our mindset right if you’re if you’re in that scene that’s pretty cool let’s get back to the body shot though all the germs that pull out of people’s belly buttons like how rigorous are people in their belly button washing situation and then you’re putting an alcohol in there for people to slurp out of what what do you like you could literally do that with anything what do I like yeah what do you like hermetically sealed bags I don’t know that mean what does that mean I don’t even know what hermetically means means like there’s no bacteria in or out oh okay system’s not building up any antibodies to any bacteria so therefore you can actually be weaker down the road so yeah I don’t know what yeah that’s pretty seems pretty dumb if anything I’m actually not I just turn that back around on you see what I’m saying like you just take anything and it can be bad if you just point it in a bad light I’m actually not as super germaphobe like if someone’s like Hey try try this drink have a bite of my food yeah I’m I’m all for it but when we come to like baby biring drinks into my mouth I’m good do you get a beer do you wash the top of the can rigorously every time you imagine what’s on those I’ve Dr thousand beers I’ve never thought once I mean that’s the same thing like there’s all these germs and everything flying around if you don’t think it’s all mental then you’re going to get sick all the time that’s the fact of the matter but let’s get back to the scene she was spitting tequila in his mouth you like kissing if you don’t want to kiss a stranger I get it that’s all you have to say it’s not the tequila part that’s weird it’s you don’t like kissing that’s all you don’t like next time I see you I’m going to spit some drink in your mouth and you’re going to be like that’s fine just like crack and open a beer yeah if you’re still looking good then I’m not gonna be upset about it but we’ll see when I see you okay you said this scene was your favorite scene of the movie and this is the initial scene when Hugh Jackman meets John Travolta and they give him 60 seconds to hack into the the FBI database they spit the tequila in his mouth and then she gives him felus yeah with a gun in his head is there ever been a scene that’s that’s the super original way for interrogation or to get something out of someone while also having like eight different stimuli going yeah I liked it a lot I thought it was really original yeah so do we bring back the did you get a boner segment the because I have to ask the way you’re so excited about this uh I mean I watched this on TNT oh yeah how did they do that in TNT TNT that you don’t know he’s going to get BJ so you just think he’s like really tense like you don’t understand God yeah you’re like why is he so weird with his eyes right now and stuff so you don’t see that or H Berry you don’t see if you know what I mean so when you I watch this unedited version it changed my life honestly can I get into my next talk down and then we’ll talk about it so my next talk down is baseball I’ve heard when when men have issues in the bedroom they think about baseball you know to keep the party going I I’m not exactly sure what that means when they say they think about baseball or is it like you’re running through stats or you’re like trying to replay a game in your head like when when they say you think about baseball Keith in your experience when you do this what does that actually mean I think it’s a joke on baseball being boring what people think oh so I guess if it’s because it’s boring that makes sense to me but you know what’s more boring than baseball coding and hacking screw baseball just think about how you would potentially try to hack into a government database and that’s going to keep you in the game but if someone is holding a gun to your head and saying they’re going to shoot you if you can’t do this in 60 seconds do you think you would even be able to get an erection like I don’t even think that’s possible well he say she’s really good so I don’t know oh I mean she could be freaking Snuffaluffagus it doesn’t matter to me I don’t know I mean we’re brought to you by hims uh so maybe because he’d made Gone in 60 seconds but they kept bringing back up like oh okay you have 60 seconds to break in here it’s like okay and then when they’re hanging hi Barry it’s like all right she’s going to die in 60 seconds and he’s giving him the countdown like it’s actually going to happen in 60 seconds but it’s like I don’t know she might last 2 minutes up there like who knows knows well I think the big thing for the the BJ scene was that he lasted 60 seconds it was pretty impressive right that was the whole thing I was going to say this guy is doing really you were worried about him getting direction I was like 60 seconds wow so he’s going twice or what’s the
deal H what else do you have for stock down uh mine’s similar to yours working on a computer stock down yeah I watched this movie when I was 13 and 14 I loved computers when I was younger and I just thought when I got to this age I’d be doing some Excel spreadsheets you know hacking and like with the multiple monitors keyboards going you know when he’s like in the zone drinking wine I thought the same thing would be happening when I’m doing my V lookups and pivot tables and some if formulas I thought I’d be like [ __ ] getting that high that he was getting nope I’m just sitting here [ __ ] miserable what what that was a lie to me the whole thing was a lie well it’s funny cuz my next stock down was the computer that you had personally built that you’re probably sitting at right now because when you said oh I built a computer I was like wow that’s that’s pretty fascinating I’m really proud of you that’s amazing like you’re some sort of weird scientist but then I see this movie and they open up the door and it’s 2001 and there’s like eight monitors like seven screens like does your computer have seven screens I don’t think so can each one get onto its own network I don’t I don’t think so is there a fun little loopy graphic that connects all the monitors I don’t think so so I’m not impressed by the computer that you built anymore actually I’m the opposite I think it’s terrible i’ve been watching this movie inspiring my whole life to to get H Berry and get six monitors I mean that’s fact of the matter it is kind of funny just looking back to 2001 being like this is the the peak of technology is just like seven monitors kind of like half-hazard placed like each one of those monitors is $50 it’s not it’s not a lot love hates what do you get for love I’m G A fond over this I don’t care though it’s super original I think that the one thing I saw in all the reviews was it’s not original which it kind of blows my mind cuz I’ve never seen a movie like it since then there’s this ambiguity in terms of bad guys and good guys and these all these moral quandaries and questions about things it’s a great a late ‘ 90s early 2000 action movie I I mean I know there’s definitely some sentimental value for me but I just thought it was great and unique yeah I thought the action sequences were fun I honestly did the opening scene we already talked about that but it was a nice table setter and the Travolta whipping out the M249 on the street shootout at the beginning of that scene when he just like stands up the convertible Coupe and shoots both of with his pistols like yeah that would sick it’s it’s a great trailer shot you know what I mean it’s great what movie has a guy doing that in a car Chas scene followed by them asking you how many innocent people would you be willing to kill in order to K all diseases or save America or be a patriot wait what like that’s such a different movie that you’re asking that question in could you kill a child to to cure all diseas I press a button to do it yes no no no no bare hands no could you it depends whose child no uh I don’t I don’t think so that’s that’s a lot of that’s a lot of pressure and also like I’m not even sure that’s the answer like obviously like diseases and stuff suck then we’re talking about population control you know now now we got a population issue it’s one of those things like it’s almost a butterfly effect like I’m not 100% sure that I’m actually solving the world’s Problems by doing this so if you’re asking me to kill a baby and I’m really 100% sure I’m going to solve The World’s problems and like I’m I’m probably not going to do it but depends what kind of mood I’m in uh also the just the gratuitous violence was fun you know it was it was pretty much consistent throughout throughout the movie and Travolta was living by his own moral code and the thing that I did like about him as a bad guy is there was a purpose to him he was going for something he had his idea of what a freedom fighter and a patriot is and that’s what he was doing I need to mention it hi Barry I mean I already went over a little bit but this is I watched this when I was 14 top five of any movie just just for my personal recollection what do what do you mean excuse me what do you mean by that like top five hottest people I’ve seen in a movie okay got you character-wise and to do that while having an ed shearan haircut is beyond impressive you can’t you can’t do that with that haircut and somehow she still pulls it off so you didn’t see the topless scene when you watched on TNT obviously no I didn’t even know that was thing and when you saw it how much later did did you have to rent it or something like that I saw it when I was 13 14 and then I didn’t hit puberty until I saw that movie with you know rated R version which I was like 19 that’s why I hit puberty you know I started actually having like oh wow wait what’s going on oh I’m just picturing like B faci yeah your first pube just pops out like whoa that changed my life a little bit interesting question here for you do you think that scene was better in terms of like oh my God like she’s so hot or the one when he finds her with the wire I actually like the wire one better but the wire one was uh I don’t know I feel like it was weird to to go like that too much yeah to gaw on that one too much I’m like no I got to follow what the story is where the the one where she’s reading which we love that obviously reading too MH it that was just meant for that that was just like there was nothing to that scene other than we’re going to that scene seemed a little cringy because it was like cringy this is this you got to think this is 2001 before the explosion of the internet I mean we needed it all right yeah sure well the internet was around but yeah it didn’t hadn’t you know what I’m saying like that would bring people to movies back in the day oh 100% it did it did bring people that was that was like the biggest selling line for this movie was Halle Bears going topless yeah I didn’t know that but yeah my other love is the hacking scenes just because they’re so cheesy they are as cheesy as it can possibly get it’s they’re like laugh out loud funny and I always find it interesting how one it’s okay to say that we don’t understand how hacking works I have no idea you know I’m okay with that but how Hollywood always tries to help us visualize it by putting tetrahedrons together or like different shapes and then just like sticking things to them and being like oh he’s hacking and that’s exactly what happens in this movie he’s just like putting a Rubik’s cube of code together and then it’s falling apart and he’s like oh and it’s just this like weird Montage of him drinking wine being like yes yes no no with the music in the background it was it was hilarious I I had a good I mean they did the same thing in the Matrix to be fair oh no I I totally agree I’m not saying that this is a standalone terrible any of these movies when they do it and it’s cuz obviously like oneing boring looking spreadsheet yeah exactly the people that probably did it the best was like The Social Network when he’s just writing all the code for Facebook and it’s another Montag type thing but the the music’s better obviously and um n in Nails yeah well Trent resar yeah Trent resar so it just made it better where this music was honestly terrible throughout I got some honorable mentions the flying bus got to love that yeah I can dig it you know little deception there rich white politicians fly fishing always works it always works and for some reason they all do the same thing there’s like a helicopter finds them on a stream in Montana Fly Fishing it’s just that’s just the way it is it Che perfect and just to really cement this movie in the time at which it was made you know the blonde highlights everywhere you know even Hugh Jackman’s got his like um tip frosted tips everyone’s everyone else has some sort of highlight going on the 9s fashion the sunglasses that these guys were wearing yeah the long trench coats yeah like the sunglasses are the same kind of sunglasses and like the Matrix and they’re wearing them seriously which is it’s they were cool I mean I don’t really like to jump on Trends I actually thought those sunglasses were cool so hand up on me but I I still think they’re cool honestly but whatever maybe oh my God I would love to see you come down and visit me and wear those sunglasses and I would love it I will not [ __ ] on you I would love it the thing is I realize I can’t wear him because you got to block whatever you’re seeing here you know I got a face for radio and a a voice for typing it up voice people are death people and ability to write for people that can’t read so that’s where I stand so I need sunglasses that block my whole face people I’ve only gotten comments on sunglasses the bigger they are like oh oh that’s not bad those look pretty nice on you and I’m like yeah these are just I just have a blanket on my face like yeah keep that there keep that whole thing on yeah people like oh those suass interesting you take them off you’re like oh what these ones and they’re
like all right let’s get to hates what you hate about swordfish you already mentioned it they needed to just cut the falling down the hill scene and him running away they didn’t need that I think they just were like we need to put some action here so let’s have him like running away it didn’t make sense and then the falling down the hill with like clear stunt doubles for like 3 minutes get that out of the movie just get out I didn’t know it was stun up was like dummies because the way they were falling was like so like dead body like yeah but I actually think that they went back in the editing room after they filmed this movie and they were like wow this is all pretty terrible so they’re like well let’s keep all the action scenes obviously and then we can work after that like well we only have an hour so like [ __ ] we got start adding stuff back and then someone just said like what if we just have them fall for like 3 minutes that’ll get us past the 130 Mark and they’re like yeah that sounds good just have these guys falling for three minutes no comment my first hate is what about Holly a lot of questions here about Hugh Jackman getting where’s Holly what are you going to do about Holly you you want to see Holly again all this stuff I’m pretty sure Hugh Jackman would have no problem getting custody of his daughter if this was real life yeah okay he went to jail for 18 months it’s a white collar crime no big deal he was wired like number one man of the year on the rise in 2000 so he’s got a big brain on his shoulders he can go into the corporate world he can’t use computers sir I know whatever like you said the internet hasn’t exploded he can use a [ __ ] abicus for all I care he’s he’s got a brain on his shoulders he can do something he uses custody of his daughter to his wife who’s an alcoholic and a porn actress who’s now married to a porn director/producer who’s making the film’s in their own house a judge is thinking going to be pretty lenient in uh California when it comes to visitation rights for her father like the idea that he just can’t see her because he went to jail for a white collar crime while there’s like gratuitous sex going on in the room next to her bedroom gross although the hi Bear’s comment about her being a fluffer in a couple years was honestly the funniest part of the movie what else you got for ha people calling it a techno Thriller do you know what that is no sounds hot everyone was like this is a weird new techno Thriller you want to guess what it is maybe because the shitty soundtrack that’s what I thought no it’s just a tech Thriller like technology they call it techno though it just annoyed the [ __ ] really has nothing to do with technology besides the like couple of shitty hacking Parts why would it not just be Tech that’s already a word for that or technology in Te Tech is another word like you’ve got mail is a techno romcom like what just cuz it has a computer in it I got two how is Stanley free to go at the end he took 10 million to hack into this whole system which kind of started this whole thing and then he put this other bug in there and then he lost the guy like he didn’t do anything at the end and then lastly I just needed a little bit more out of my buddy Vinnie Jones I love Vinnie Jones anytime he’s in a movie I mean he steals the show in Euro trip and he’s in it for five minutes he gives a good one line to the hostage about the RPG being a suppository but then he dies by falling out of a flying bus although it was a pretty fun death and that like he then exploded I just wanted more I mean even in like lock talk and Two Smoking Barrels he doesn’t like really talk but he just like has this Essence same as Gone in 60 Seconds I think too right I think he has one line it’s only allowed one line in every movie I think that might be a rule some studio notes this made 147 million on $102 million budget made 45 million so that’s a win interesting timing of the release 3 months before 9/11 I don’t remember personally at the time cuz I was just a young we lad was terrorism like a super hot topic or something like that but terrorism didn’t really like exist in my 13-year-old brain until 9/11 and so the fact that this movie came out 3 months before and was basically just like focused on fighting terrorism and just the takeaway from this movie where the idea being if they blow up a school bus we take down one of their whole schools the ratchet up thing it’s like oh [ __ ] like hopefully people didn’t take this too Ser this movie too serious after 911 but uh I guess it worked out yes it was real you Harbor terorists we’ll go in and literally Harbor your country for 20 years yeah exactly mission accomplished it got a lot of press like I said because Hal Barry was doing her first topless scene she was paid an extra 500k on top of the 2 million she made so 25% more to take the top off she said she did cuz she was like uncomfortable being nude and kind of wanted to like break that barrier good for her I would also just do it for for $500,000 it obviously I mean if you could probably figure out how much that made the movie just that idea as like a she should have got some some percentage on that she should got points on the movie but whatever uh and John Travolta earned himself a Razzi nomination for worst actor for this movie so that’s gross that’s a gross nomination you said you did it for Rotten Tomato variants but it’s got a 2859 on Rotten Tomatoes so it’s actually not a a huge variance really that’s a big variance though I mean it’s a big variance but it’s not it if it was 60% it’ look bigger because 60% the popcorn right well when I’m 60% I look bigger so yeah I I know what you’re saying 60% is certified fresh yeah it’s right there if it just needs one more percentage point which I’m going to put some reviews in you you got to drop a few in there there is a rotten review on here that I’d like to reference it says it’s a good thing the action is noisily distracting because you don’t want any downtime in which to ponder the plausibility or sense of anything that is happening I think if you take noisily out of that it’s a good thing the action is distracting because you don’t want to do any downtime which a Ponder the possibility of the sense or anything is happening yes I agree but that’s a positive thing for me at the time I’m not like oh how is this working whatever I’m like yeah there’s a ton of action that they fill in with some crazy story about how he’s leading black cell that they’re going to use 6 million to kill terrorist like yeah sure whatever sounds good to me the action is distracting in a positive way so we need this guy is ready to turn upside down I have one review here too that I wanted to make sure get your your thoughts on it this is the definition of empty and empty-headed entertainment willing to stoop to any level to Goose a weary and jaded audience do you know what goosing means willing to stoop to any level to Goose a weary and jaded audience the navigator from Top Gun close to Goose is a verb to poke between the buttocks with an upward thrust so I mean I was Goose this whole movie and fact of the matter is Glenn whip from the Los Angeles Daily News what I enjoy and what I have like enjoy getting done to me in my own private home has nothing to do with you and nothing to do with the movie okay so I’ll be Goose all day if I want to all right the second she started in the hacking scene you’re like oh hold on a second let me get the KY I got to Goose myself for the seat what a word I mean I think that’s what it means there’s no other way to use that right I’m not sure that’s not Urban Dictionary that’s like actually the real dictionary word I think it’s probably been built into the vernacular to mean something that’s less than but I still like it you know I’m going to use it are you goosing me I’m going to use that all the time thank you for bringing that into my life you’re welcome would you recommend this movie Keith the answer is going to be 100% if you like the Matrix Enemy of the State W Bing citizen any of those movies that’s what that says enemy the state is so much better than this movie Enemy of the State you could say the all the things you think are unrealistic about this movie you can say the exact same thing about I agree I am not saying that it’s more realistic and just better movie but your only criticism of this movie were that it the it’s unrealistic I’m going to tell you that I don’t I didn’t hate this movie you know I’ll I’ll tell you as well to me it’s a pretty ideal shitty Sunday movie you know you had a couple of barley pops the night before not a lot of sleep this is a good like in yourr 20s no one has seen it you live with a couple of guys everyone jumps on on the couch grabs their blanket of choice and settles in for a quadruple feature on a Sunday like when football season’s over that’s not a shitty movie Sunday that’s just my every Sunday that’s like that’s what that is that’s like a good movie Sunday I don’t talking about your brain only working at 30% cuz the night before that’s normal for me you’re ordering some pizzas in between movies and you just crush them yeah I I love that and I think this movie would fit in well there but my deciding factor on whether this is a good movie or not is would I ever watch it again and the answer is no absolutely not I’ve seen Enemy of the State within the last 5 years if I someone was like hey do you want to watch enemy the state I’d be like yeah I’m down I’m okay that we watched it the wife said I asked her her review as I was walking in here to record she said one star terrible so uh you have a bone to pick with her but Ellie didn’t really like it either so that’s fine I give it 3.5 buddies no get the [ __ ] out of here seen this like 20 times now so I don’t I think it’s original I thought the bad guys were cool I thought the action scenes were cool I thought the philosophical debates were cool there’s no other movies that really do that Matrix obviously does it but it’s at like the Matrix is a four right like so this is a step down but it’s still well the Matrix also like broke ground cinematography wise like that was I don’t I mean who cares about breaking grounds I mean I don’t care well I think I I care when it makes the experience of watching it like holy [ __ ] that was crazy like how did they possibly do that you know just it feels cool right but at the time I mean that doesn’t help for rewatch value now 20 years later you know yeah I mean I can understand that it it for me maybe because more of like the Nostalgia factor of it but and like how I I remember how I felt when I first saw that movie and I was like holy [ __ ] like this is something I’ve never seen why I’m giving it this High a score Nostalgia Factor so okay sure yeah you can pick the next one it’s a one and a half buddies for me it’s a Twizzler you know I’m I’m when we’re watching movies someone’s like I got Twizzlers I was like oh sure pass me Twizzler and I take I eat twizz on on airplanes all the time this this is the difference between man and you first bite is good and then after that I’m like like okay and then they another one I’m like absolutely not that was disgusting I don’t want anymore yeah so I love Twizzler and you don’t so that’s a difference yeah you probably Goose yourself with twizz Hey listen there’s nothing wrong with gooing oneself okay okay well that was horish I’m just glad we hashed it out it’s it’s important what do we have coming up in the book World Leviathan Wakes by James S.A Cory we’ll catch you all next time for Leviathan Wakes all right bye [Music] now