Project Hail Mary – MOVIE – Episode 139

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The Buddies blast off for an emergency pod to discuss the 2026 film adaptation of Andy Weir’s “Project Hail Mary,” starring Ryan Gosling as the loneliest, most attractive genius in space. The Buddies had read the book way back on episode 23, so this was a trip down memory lane. Much of their discussion centered around Gosling’s character wardrobe choices, his likeability, and if him being unable to get a date is the most unrealistic part of a movie about alien rock spiders and sentient microbes eating the sun. They also got to their normal cadence of bringing up references to Austin Powers’ unfreezing sequence, contemplating whether this is all a Total Recall scenario, and referencing a number other movie comparisons. So, ‘fist my bump,’ and join us for a podcast that promises to be as enjoyable as the movie (maybe).

Intro (0:00-1:50)

Stock Up/Down (1:51-28:49)

Favorite Scene (28:50-32:44)

Love/Hate (32:45-35:45)

Lingering Questions (35:46-39:10)

Conclusion (39:11-41:14) 

NEXT BOOK: 1984 by George Orwell 

Transcript for SEO Purposes 🙂

All right, welcome buddy book club.
I’m Dylan here with one of three men
I want to watch me sleep.
Keith, what’s up buddy?
Who the other two?
Can’t talk about that here.
Oh, okay, okay.
Well here’s the buddy book club
where we’re working on some best sellers
and this or box office bangers,
this week we’ll be discussing
2026’s Project Hail Mary the movie
starring Ryan Gosling two directors,
Phil Lord, Christopher Miller.
We, it’s an emergency pod.
Sound the alarm, it’s an emergency pod.
We had done Project Hail Mary.
If you had a guess what episode number it was.
I would say, how many have we done like 130?
I would say it was like 50.
All right, 23.
I thought we did it. – 23?
Yeah, I thought we did it at episode like 95.
I was like, oh shit, I didn’t realize
we read it that long ago.
Yeah, holy smokes, that’s an OG app.
So we’ve done Project Hail Mary from Andy Weir,
we did the Martian, we did Artemis,
terrible, do not read that book.
My God was that bad.
And we like Andy Weir.
I was never about the moon trips called Artemis,
after the book.
Oh, so as I am, someone said Artemis
and I was like, that stupid book, they were like,
nope, people are going to the moon, you idiot.
Space missions?
Yeah, that’s a disaster.
That’s bad.
Yeah, I was very confused, but whatever.
I didn’t even finish my spell.
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We just figured we wanted to pull up and do a quick app
considering we had read the book and the movie came out.
We’ll stick with our standard format,
but I think we’ll probably just end up chatting about it.
Yeah, stuck up, what are you up?
Stock up, Ryan Gosling.
I mean, similar to the Martian, this movie was gunner
I heavily on one actor, along with one alien,
but I mean, Gosling delivered.
I gotta give him his props here.
I mean, the most unbelievable part of this movie
is that Ryan Gosling’s character is lonely
and doesn’t have a friends or doesn’t have girls
banging down his door to get to talk to him.
I mean, the dude’s smart, he’s funny, he’s well-spoken,
he’s incredibly attract.
I mean, he’s good looking guy.
I didn’t have dreams about him after.
He’s doing these cool experiments left and right.
Even when it’s revealed, he’s like a coward quote unquote,
which I thought in the book was white words.
The book was just like, this guy is a terrible person.
And the movie is like, I kinda understand it.
You know, it’s more of a self-confidence thing
and like, he’s like, I’m not the hero in the story,
I can’t do this.
And that’s why he’s like quote unquote the coward,
but you feel bad for him there.
You’re not like, what a pussy.
In the book, you’re like, this guy’s kind of the worst
when he like turns it down because he’s basal like
they’re only hoping you’re like, oh man,
this guy’s not really helping out the team.
And this and the movie, even then I’m like,
I kind of side with him.
So great job by him.
Not exactly the same character I would say is the book
and that’s probably a good thing.
Yeah, in the movie, and honestly,
I don’t remember so much of the book.
Some of it came back to me as I was watching the movie,
obviously, but I read my notes from the book.
Good for you, Good for you.
The movie portrays him as a very relatable hero.
He’s what, I mean, he’s obviously much different
than all of us, but in the mindset of if someone said,
hey, you have to go on this space mission
to save the world, you’re only hope instead
of the typical Star Wars saga or whatnot.
I’d be like, I gotta take a liraza pam
or something, if I’m gonna get on a flight
for more than an hour, there is no way
I’m getting on that spaceship.
I don’t care who’s gonna die.
That’s my mindset.
So I could relate to that.
Well, the combo thing I wouldn’t mind actually,
you’re just like, hey, we’re gonna put you in a coma
so you don’t have to lead onto a liftoff,
do any of that stuff and all of a sudden you’re only in space?
All right, that’s better than the alternative.
So yeah, I’ll take that.
Yeah, I guess so, but he was definitely relatable
as the hero and I liked him a lot in this movie.
I mean, my first stock up was, was dumb and dumber
because another great film, maybe the best comedy
of all time. – Yeah, it was a good stock up.
Because it’s a cardigan, thanks for noticing
if you remember that scene.
(laughing)
That was my stock up.
you could literally say any line in that movie
and then you, I would know it, you know?
I hope so.
But I said something from dumb and dumber
on a call the other day and it was crickets.
That’s rough.
What was the age range?
The age range was 50 to 22.
So it was really, I got everyone in there.
I could get if the 22 year old wasn’t on board,
but the 50 year old and it was crickets.
So I was like, dumb and dumb, and they were like,
oh, okay, cool.
Haven’t seen it.
I got some haven’t seen it, which was shocking.
And then– – This company is going down
and out fast.
You told me that then?
Been writing Harry Potter either?
Like, what do we do in here?
Yeah, yeah. What’s going on?
I also got some in Keith fashion.
I got some, oh, I didn’t care for it, which was shocking.
You say that I didn’t care for it when it makes sense.
You don’t say it for dumb and dumb or what are we doing here?
Yeah, but you say it for like the godfather, which is
yeah.
Shaveful.
but the cardigan thing, did you notice the cardigan
he was wearing throughout the film?
No, maybe I’ll take a look at the picture.
It’s like a sweater or whatever, it’s probably,
I don’t even think it’s a cardigan, maybe it is a cardigan.
I don’t know, but it was awesome.
I just loved it, it was great wardrobe piece.
I think it fit him quite nicely.
Overall, the Gosling’s look in this movie,
maybe his best, the hair, Gosling hair, top notch,
that is his best.
But I was just trying to–
maybe a Gosling, suck that, I was trying to think about
what his hottest movie was, like what movie
does he look the hottest?
And obviously, you know, too much their own pizzone.
So I can understand that someone would have different feelings,
but I was thinking drive is gotta be up there,
you know, it’s got the good vibe for drive.
Some people might like a little bit more rugged
place beyond the Pines type look for Gosling,
a little couple face tattoos, why not?
Cradle robbers potentially remember the Titans.
Epstein left people with like that one, Yeah, go ahead.
But yeah, that’s, I mean, that was really my top three,
but this was number one for me.
Oh, okay.
Well, I do like how they’re like, look how silly he is,
his glasses are slightly askew.
Yeah, this guy’s like a 10 out of 10,
you know, I don’t think you can really,
you can look like that.
Yeah, we do.
Yeah, it’s like, not another teen movie or whatever it was.
The artsy girl, she’s ugly,
is anyone here and she says glasses on?
Well, that’s exactly,
Comes from shoes all that, but yeah, I
Oh Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, yeah.
It’s the same show, they make it fun of it.
They make it fun of shoes All that.
Yeah, Yeah, yeah.
And you can look it up, Project Hill Mary,
2020, Sig Ryan, Gosling Wolf Cartigan, $98 on Paragon Jackets.
Done, done, 98 bucks.
Yeah, that’s, that’s given it away.
Yeah, honestly, All of the clothes that he wears
in this movie were great.
He’s got tons of super fun t-shirts on,
and you know, the movie was going so fast,
and I wasn’t like, I was saying they’re taking notes
or anything like that,
’cause that’d be wild.
I was just trying to enjoy myself
for the first time seeing a movie in three years.
But he had like, science pun type shirts,
and he was basically kidnapped and put on this,
and put on this spaceship,
but he’s got all these clothes that fit him.
So, you know, I assume they’re his clothes.
That’s what I was wondering too,
were they just like packed up all this stuff
and stuff in that?
And so, yeah, but at the same time,
you always hear with these space missions
that weight is like super important,
people can bring one thing from home.
So, how many shirts is he allowed?
And then you’re the guy who is the guy who is his buddy,
throughout the movie, who is the past,
the past, yeah, Carl, who’s the pastry chef from–
Oh, the bear?
the bear.
Yeah, he’s the pastry chef from the bear.
Loved him in the bear,
I thought he was great in this movie, for sure.
Like, he killed that role, whatever,
it was obviously not a big role, but he killed it.
So, it’s like, Carl’s going in and packing his stuff
and just being like, yeah, that’s, you know,
I’m going to give you all of your punny shirts,
but they were great.
So– – He got ’em, man.
Yeah, I liked it.
Costing department, stock up there, I guess, as well,
’cause they did a good job.
What else you got for stock up?
Carrie, okay, Stock up.
In the book, we get Ava, who’s the character
that I remember thinking was my favorite character,
because she was so no nonsense.
It was to the point that it was funny, the computer.
She was like, that doesn’t compute.
I thought she would talk in the book and whatnot.
Yeah, she was kind of like a science version
of Irene Kennedy from our mid-wrap series, I felt like.
Yeah, although Irene, I feel like
I was sort of reading more of the books,
where like, oh, she’s kind of actually,
kind of gets a little weird at some of those books,
but yeah, I agree.
She’s down to business, you know,
where I wear a short hair, a trope there.
(laughing)
And if a new girl has like short hair,
or is like, hair in a ponytail, she’s trying to be business,
like, that’s like what Hollywood does, you know?
It’s kind of like putting glasses of skew on someone,
like, look at that fucking nerd.
Well, that’s what they did in the movie,
none of the two movies.
They just took her glasses off and took her ponytail out,
and they were like, there we go.
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, yeah.
Look at how high you are.
Exactly.
But at one point in the book, she tells her island,
I like you, I just don’t respect you,
which I thought it was hilarious.
Gonna use that line for some people?
(laughing)
I mean, that’s the meanest thing you could possibly say
about anyone.
That’s just like, you’re a cute person,
but you’re just like an awful, you know,
human being, you’re worth it.
Yeah, there’s a few people
like I think about saying that too.
Oh, wow.
But, you know, that’s her kind of character in the book,
but you gave her one song in this movie here,
the Harry Styles song, which I didn’t realize
was Harry Styles, pretty good song.
Great.
I didn’t know what Harry Styles is.
He crushed it.
Yeah, you really humanize her really quickly,
and she becomes all of a sudden likeable,
and oh, she just has to be this way
because she’s forcing this position,
but really, it’s kind of like the Tom Hanks
and Sam and probably Ryan, he’s like,
I’m a schoolteacher back at home.
And, but like, you think he’s a hard ass,
and he’s doing all these things,
none of the troops want,
but he’s like, no, I don’t wanna do this,
but I have to.
It’s almost like, Ryan also has a little bit
of a rough interest there too,
which is kind of interesting.
Are you, do you thought so?
the karaoke part was a little bit too long.
I was like my one point,
and I was like, there was like a three minute close-up
of her face singing, and then his face singing,
and I was like, I mean, there’s some b-roll here
about anything else other than this,
like you can keep singing and have other things going on.
Like, I don’t want to just see their faces for three minutes.
I also would have said,
it’s the end of the World Varianne would’ve been a good
appropriate song for her to sing also,
but she, she went for something a little bit less morose.
Yeah, it might have gone a little too long.
We watched Mad Men recently, we’d never seen it,
and there’s a, I guess, I don’t know,
I must be famous, scene,
out of that old series where his dawn draper’s wife
sings him karaoke or something at her birthday,
and it’s so uncomfortable.
It’s like this scene has to end.
It’s so uncomfortable.
But yeah, I didn’t feel like there was necessarily
a love interest.
I think she liked how human he was,
just in all of the things that she couldn’t express
that she was probably feeling he was allowed to,
and she was kind of forced into,
and maybe it’s part of her personality too,
but of an ends justify the means kind of mindset,
where I don’t care if I’m gonna kidnap you
and throw you on the ship,
someone’s gotta go save the world.
You’re the only person that can do it.
They did kind of cut some of the detail
from the book around that from what I remember,
where was, this whole coma thing that they put them into,
was way more dangerous than they let on in the movie,
and you had to have a certain gene,
moniker or something to be able to do it,
and he happened to have that gene.
So there really wasn’t anyone else.
It wasn’t necessarily like,
Oh, well, where about to launch tomorrow?
I knew the only person on this base,
and you know the whole flight plan,
which it makes sense.
I’m totally fine.
I thought in general,
book to movie from what I remember of the book
was well done.
Yes, tons of stuff made the cutting room floor.
If I had any sort of issue with it,
it would have, and like maybe it’s a hate,
that well, it was just burned,
but it would be, there was way more science stuff
in the book that they flattened into the movie,
which of course they’re gonna have to do,
but I think some of it got lost in translation
or just ended up getting one line
that was much more complicated,
and maybe it just, it didn’t translate well,
or it was like, “Wait, how does that work?
How did you do that?
The whole thing, what are we talking about here?
I mean, I saw it with the wife,
and she agreed that some of the reasoning behind
what they were doing, maybe wasn’t super clear
where in the book it was extremely clear
because they spent, you know, it’s anti-weir,
so he went deep into the actual science stuff.
So…
I thought they did a pretty good job of,
I mean, realistically all you need to know
is Astrophage is bad and it’s hurting the sun.
Like, you don’t need to give me 50 pages
on what Astrophage is, chemical break-up is,
and how it reacts to, I’m like, I don’t give a,
you know, like, that doesn’t matter to me,
I can see the argument being like,
well, then you miss kind of the core component of the book,
but at the same time, the point of the movie is like,
the action stuff and everything that’s going on,
I don’t even care about it,
it’s really the relationship between him and Rocky,
how communication is built between two people
that don’t know to communicate,
how you solve problems,
like, that’s the core of the movie in my mind.
Does that ever miss in a movie
when it’s two people that don’t know how to communicate,
that are trying to figure it out one way or another?
I feel like that is always something I’m,
I’m there for, you know, it’s always a scene
that I’m excited to see.
It could be something as simple as the 13th Warrior
within Tony O’Vendera’s extremely underrated movie,
in my opinion, where they’re just sitting around a fire
and he doesn’t speak Arabic or whatever.
He speaks Arabic, he doesn’t speak whatever Viking language
they’re talking and slowly through people talking,
the language transitions into English.
So it’s like him learning over time
is just kind of broken down to one quick second,
which I like, but this, and once again, in the book,
it’s a lot more, but I think they did a really good job
with them learning each other’s language.
The one part that I didn’t really get is
when Ryan Gosling was talking,
it never really turned into a Ritian,
I think that’s the name of the people,
it never turned into a Ritian language.
You know, it was never like, (imitates a Ritian)
like when Rocky talked, it would come in as English,
so we would hear it, but then when Ryan Gosling talked,
we never heard the sound go to Rocky
so that he could understand it.
Oh, I see, yeah, I thought maybe that Rocky
just was quicker or smarter
and learning languages.
Maybe in the book, like, be about the things,
but I think that’s gonna be redundant.
And it makes a lot of sense that we don’t need that.
I’m not necessarily hating on it.
I don’t need every time Ryan Gosling talks for it to be like,
Mahoo, what, my dude?
Also like the last scene you see,
he doesn’t have the program,
I just beeping and he understands what they’re saying
and then he’s speaking back to Rocky
and Rocky understands what he’s saying.
It’s probably because he couldn’t speak in beeps.
He probably needed certain vocal chords in order to do that.
genre fluidity, I think is a Stock up here.
Like, you said, what you were interested in the story
was the relationship between Grace,
that’s his name, yet, Riley and Grace, and Rocky.
That’s 100% accurate.
It’s sold as a sci-fi movie
and people are somehow kind of comparing it to interstellar
or arrival, which it’s not, it’s not those movies.
I can see how you’re drawing those lines,
but it’s really, this is a buddy comedy.
It just happens to be in space.
yeah.
The whole plot is kind of doesn’t matter,
’cause the only, well not the only part,
but the most interesting part was just the relationship
between the two of them and I think they nailed it.
Not only do you feel their affection for each other,
but you care about Rocky.
You know, when he dies, I don’t know,
like three times, you think he’s gonna die,
but when he’s in his thing and he’s like, you know,
I’ll watch your sleep just remember to wake up
or whatever, it was like, oh my god, it got me.
It got, you know, it’s like shit,
it’s someone blowing smoke in my eye
or what’s going on over here, ’cause I’m feeling something.
So yeah, I just thought in terms of like a genre,
it’s funny that this is, I mean,
it is obviously a sci-fi movie,
but it really, the core is a buddy comedy comedy.
Yeah, I agree.
a buddy comedy comedy.
Agreed.
I got actually one more too, actually.
I was gonna have a talk down.
18-T girl, stock up?
Milana, Alec, Assander, Rov, Ben-Tub, Ben-Tub.
Milana, Ben-Tub.
right accent.
Ben-Tub, like Are the movie, need more of her.
That’s it, that’s the whole stock.
Buy it, put her in every movie.
It’s funny because my stock up would have been
having a good agent because whoever her agent was,
props to them for getting her this role,
which was really a nothing part.
I think she had two lines in the whole movie.
Both in Russian accent, which we love, yeah.
is that what it was?
I was so unclear at what accent she was trying
that when she opened her mouth, I was gone from the movie,
completely transported out from the thrill ride I was on.
I was like, what?
there Are two lines, or like, I am the scientist
and then the second line was,
we’re gonna kill each other when we got there.
We’re gonna commit suicide when we’re up there.
That was like the two lines, yeah.
Yeah, I like how you were a first one.
I got it, like an Irish accent.
But.
I was off.
but Yeah, it was, it seemed like it was totally unnecessary
to have her do the accent.
Oh, there you are.
There was like Kevin Costner and Robin Hood,
which is one of my favorite movies,
but it was as bad as the accent that he was trying
for on an offender.
Terrible.
He’s probably Russian, her name is Russian,
so.
it was a terrible accent.
You use beckostanian, I don’t know where that is.
Yeah, I know her from love, the HBO,
or excuse me, the Netflix show.
She was, what’s his name?
Gus’ first girlfriend.
So she was good, she was good in that.
Now she made tons of money in those AT and T commercials,
bustin’ out of blouses, but yeah,
I thought it was just a, it was a nothing part
that she managed to not do very well, in my opinion.
Oh, that’s, I disagree, wholeheartedly.
You can have your thoughts, that’s the best part about it.
What about, what about stockdowns?
Stuck down the metric system?
So in this movie, huge explosion caused by someone
likely a European scientist, you can’t trust them,
measuring out one milligram of astrophage
instead of one nanogram.
And that caused like the big eruption,
killed all the scientists that were supposed to go.
I mean, the metric system everyone says is so great
because it uses units based out of 100
and it’s easy to understand and all that stuff.
And people then shit on your art system,
what’s our system called?
Uh, in parallel, in parallel?
Yeah, because it’s arbitrary numbers
made up of inches and Fahrenheit and pounds
and all these things that don’t make any sense.
But I’ll tell you what, demon,
no one would confuse one ounce with one pound
or one pound with one stone or a ton.
Makers dozen, remember the fuck we use our weights?
Because none of them make any sense.
So that’s why you stick with random weight measurements
because you’re not gonna move the decimal point one place
and fuck up the whole thing.
It’s an interesting point, ours is so confusing
that you have to go back and double check?
Yeah, Exactly.
It’s like, wait, do they say dozen or bakers dozen?
So you have to go double check
where the metric system is so simple
that it allows for more errors.
that is a hot take, that is a hot take, but I…
It’s like the keyboard, you know how they make the keyboard?
So it’s like…
like, the quarterly system?
like the quarterly system?
so They made the keyboard
so you had to slow down your typing
because the typewriter, when it was first created,
you couldn’t type fast
so they needed to slow people down.
So that’s why all the letters are all weird.
That’s why they’re, wait,
like a keyboard on a computer?
Yes, the letters Are Space in a way
that would slow you down typing.
So that’s why you’ll see people like change the letters
’cause they’re like a slower version
because typewriter is you, jam if you type too quickly.
Wait, I thought They were…
I could be a complete mechanism also.
Yeah, I thought the, I thought the Quarity system
or whatever was basically to put your fingers
in a place to use the most common,
like where the most common letters are,
are all around your fingers.
But I mean, now looking at it, it’s right in front of me,
like J is right there.
I’m, you know, I never, never write in J.
J is never on that list.
Oh, All right.
But I don’t know.
but that inner keyboard letter is following
the Quarity layout designed by, in the 1870s,
by Christopher Stolls to prevent mechanical type
writers’ arms from jamming
by scattering frequently used letter pairs.
So yeah, it would slow people down.
If someone told me, like in an interview,
that they were like, oh yeah,
I rearranged the letters on my computer so I could type faster,
I’d just hire them.
Didn’t even matter if they knew what the job was
or anything, I’d be like, yeah, you’re hired.
Well, wait, the only problem with that is,
if you have to like use someone else’s computer
for the day, you’re completely fine.
When is that ever happened?
It’s kind of like how I at home use a squatty potty,
and then when I don’t have it on the road,
I’m fucked, you’re consummated for days, kid.
Think about it, that’s exactly perfect analogy, my little.
You’re like at a Airbnb and you’re grabbing
every John Grisham book in the living room,
being like taking it into the bathroom,
they’re like, oh, you’re gonna do a lot of reading.
It’s like, no, no, I’m just building my own squatty potty
’cause I try not to get hemorrhoids here.
Those people are rearranging,
they’re taking the keyboard letters out and moving them around.
So yeah.
Good to know, I’m learning new things here.
That’s great.
My first stock down is ripping off Austin Powers,
stock down.
Did you notice the first, I think it was the first line
of the movie, did you notice what Rangosling said
when he was coming out of his coma?
Something to do with freezing.
Pretty much, he said, where am I?
Can’t control the volume of my voice.
No, he said, where am I?
And I wanted to like get up and stand up and go,
you’re the Ministry of Defense.
(laughs)
But yeah, I thought it was a, I mean, he was waking up
from a coma, which was really just like Austin Powers coming
out of his unfreezing process.
And I thought it was a direct steal
from our friend, Mike Myers,
and I didn’t appreciate it.
So yeah.
Oh, okay.
Well, maybe it was a homage as the French Canadians
like to say.
Well, I would have liked to think that,
but then we really needed a P sequence right out.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
After when it’s going around.
I didn’t care about seeing all the dead bodies
and figuring out that he’s in a space station
and dragging his like tubes and stuff around with him.
But they did really set the tone there, which I appreciated
with the robot, like the medical robot or whatever it is.
That’s chasing him around the whole time.
I thought that was, it was good, good fun
with them being like, you have to stay on the table
and he just like rolls off like,
oh, it was, it set the tone for what we were in for.
We’re in for a thrill ride that’s got to have
some good laughs to it.
So yeah, I appreciate it.
When you went to, did you go, you went with the wife there,
the S-G-F?
Were there laughs in the theater?
Yeah, I think there’s a few chuckles.
I don’t think there was a parlorious,
and I don’t think that the theater was also like not,
you know, it was half full,
most theaters are these days.
Yeah, was there clapping at the end of the movie?
I can’t remember.
I think there’s a few claps, how about you?
a lot of laughs actually.
I was kind of, I was kind of surprised.
There’s one woman, a bottle of left woman,
whoever you were, she thought it was hilarious.
Yeah, that’s when you notice a laughs,
is when one person is just overlapping and you’re like,
I guess this is funny,
or this person is just annoying, you’re shit.
I guess so, I typically, a cynic or that kind of person,
I was like, I want to be that person
who’s just sitting there having the time of their life
in this packed theater.
Like I’d be a little, even if I did chuckle at something,
I couldn’t laugh like that.
I’d be like, oh, everyone’s hearing me laugh.
I can’t be that person, but she was just having a good time.
So, but yeah, I was surprised at the amount of laughs.
Obviously I was waiting for the fist my bump,
you know, as I read it in the book.
I was waiting for it, and when it came,
oh, it came, people, people really liked that.
I was a little bit disappointed
when I think it was such an easy layup
when he finally recovers either one or two points
when he finally recovers or when he comes back for him,
Rocky, he comes back after to not say,
fist my bump back.
Well, I didn’t Ryan Gosling not say that to him,
you know, I mean, like that was such an easy layup.
I was waiting for it to the full circle,
but it didn’t come.
Mmhmm, yeah, I’ve set up a little bit.
I think the medic came, Yeah, got it.
Any other stock dance for you?
the last one is just, book was better than the movie folks.
Stock down, I mean, half the reason I read books is so I can say
that it had been looked down on the peasants
that don’t read the books that I had read.
Then I watched it, and I said,
oh, you watched the movie instead of reading first?
That was cute.
I know all the background of this book,
but I think similar to the Martian movie was better
than the book, and I thought this movie was better
than the book also, so I will say, unfortunately,
I can’t use it excuse me,
I’ll also say it to people,
but I don’t believe the book for a heart.
We’re gonna have to come here and fight Caroline
’cause as I was about to get on the pod,
she was like, I really wish I read the book
’cause I would’ve understood the movie more.
Yeah, you’d tell us down below.
You didn’t read the book for you, didn’t you?
Like, come on.
So you do still do that, but then once I read it,
you’re like, yeah, I wouldn’t have read it.
It is funny how, maybe it comes off as being a dick,
but I’m generally just interested.
Is any time someone’s like, oh, I saw that movie,
oh, did you read the book?
Because I really just wanna know,
oh, did you read the book too, but really,
I’m sure they’re thinking, fuck this guy.
(laughing)
Yeah, No, yeah.
Yeah, my last stock down, and it’s a low one.
It’s a low stock down is the runtime.
Two hours and 32 minutes, it just was a little bit long
for me, a little bit long.
And I say that because I also wasn’t sure
how they were gonna end it.
I remembered as the movie was going,
I kinda remembered how the book ended.
And I thought they might end it when he and Rocky split up.
‘Cause it didn’t seem like there was that much time left,
but then I realized it was a two hour and 32 minute movie.
So, ’cause I was like, oh, kind of everything’s good here.
They could just go back and it could be the Hollywood story,
but then they squeezed in him going back to save Rocky.
And then once again, I was like, oh,
it could just end here and leave the viewer
trying to come up in their own mind
as to whether Ryan Gosling ever made it back
or what happened next.
But they went the full way with him going to
Erid or whatever, Eridini, Erid and teaching the kids
and stuff, which I liked all that stuff
from the book.
I just thought it wasn’t even necessarily like it was paste,
like it was dragging, it was just a long movie.
And I like movies to be two hours, you know?
That’s just how I like it.
Not that, unless it’s like Lord of the Rings,
then it’s give me six.
you know?
you Can be extended version of it.
But, you know, we went to see a 730 movie
and then we got home at like 1030.
It was like, Jesus Christ.
Did you find the runtime to be okay for you?
Yeah, it was fine.
I think there’s definitely good been parts
that were cut up a little bit or slowed down.
I thought the, I actually thought the action sequence,
as I think I mentioned it already.
I’ve kind of already seen every possible space
in action, it’s like so like when he’s outside the ship
struggling, yeah, it’s cool,
but I’ve seen every version of this already.
It didn’t really entice me that much.
So like that stuff I thought was almost too long.
Oh, interesting.
I didn’t necessarily think that stuff was too long.
What I thought was too short, for sure,
were the wide shot space scenes.
(dramatic music)
So we’re getting to like, the favorite scene.
Do you ever favorite scene?
I mean, either one, him coming back for Rocky
or him, Rocky recovering both of those, I think that,
’cause yeah, the whole movie is like a relationship part.
And that was where like when, you know,
a little tear coming to the eye,
a little bit, type, stuff there.
It did remind me, and I had this in my love,
it really reminded me of ET a little bit.
Definitely.
I was in ET and forever, but like, it had that same vibe
where the problem with like,
a movie like Transformers is,
I don’t give a shit at all about the Transformers.
They’re not humanizing any way.
They’re just fucking robots at fight.
Like, it doesn’t matter to me, but this is like a real rock.
That’s come to life.
That’s a real part, you know, the same thing with ET.
It’s a real alien that has feelings.
It is a real person.
So you start to like that connection relationship
and that’s kind of where those like,
peaks and valleys occur.
And that’s where it solidifies that.
So that was my favorite scenes.
Yeah, Well, yeah.
Well, before I get into my favorite scene,
I wanna burn a love here,
’cause it ties to what you were saying.
The mix of what they did with CGI and practical effects here,
’cause obviously a lot of the space stuff,
I mean, it’s all CGI.
It’s not like they went to Petrovier or something like that.
But with Rocky, they went old school and made him a puppet,
which was awesome.
I thought it tied into his humanization,
the fact that he was tangible
and it could have been so easily done with CGI,
but to make him a puppet and like seem so real,
it made him more real.
So I like how so easy now to just like put everything in CGI
and I saw this terrible thing on Reddit where,
I don’t know, I actually have mixed feelings about it,
but someone made the first scene
of a Brandon Sanderson book.
I think like the Way of Kings or something like that.
They made it in some AI engine
with some friggin’ Envita chip or whatever.
I don’t even know, some crazy stuff.
so you see like the trailers and things
are coming out for stuff, it’s crazy.
Yeah, but they made the first scene of this movie in like a day,
just put it in this AI machine and it came out
and it looked awesome, which scared the shit out of me
because I was like, oh, is this the future in one sense?
It’s great because there’s so much IP out there
that might be somewhat niche, that someone would be like,
oh, you know, I don’t know who Brandon Sanderson is,
but there’s so many fanboys out there
who would love to see that.
So maybe we’ll just get anything we want.
We can now see on the big screen
or at least on our, you know, home screens,
but it also just made me feel really sad
for people that are actually like creators and artists
and stuff like that because puppets like Rocky
might just be the way that passed, unfortunately,
because it looked so good.
I thought it really played so well to the characters.
So my favorite scene was the Petrova light sequence
on Adrian scene when he’s there collecting.
Okay, so like the action sequences,
Yeah, but it not necessarily when They were fishing.
I liked the fishing thing too.
I thought that was cool, but just,
and I don’t even see this in IMAX or anything,
I’m sure would have been stunning in IMAX,
but just the visuals of that planet,
which was super cool looking,
and then when they open up the shades or whatever
and all the Petrova material or whatever it is,
starts flying in, I just thought it was super cool.
And I was not under any sort of an ebriation outside
of the one IPA I had and I still thought it was a bit trippy.
I really, really liked the,
I mean, it helps that the music I thought was pretty good
throughout too, especially in that scene,
but you know, you called the Harry style song out.
Two of us, you know, one of my favorite Beatles songs
is in this, yeah, I just thought between the,
the soundtrack of like real music
and also like whatever they created,
I thought was pretty funny.
It almost kind of reminded me like a little Trent Reznery,
but yeah, I dug it.
Love hates, I know we probably talked about a lot of them,
but we can kind of go put them into one,
is there anything that you missed on your love
or hate situation?
I mean, I think I was a little bit opposite to you.
I thought that they took really, really complex
and complicated ideas, and within that one scene
of him teaching, were they able to explain what was going on
in like three minutes?
I was like, that’s pretty impressive for,
you’re literally introducing a new biology,
astrophage, how it’s impacting the sun,
how you have to go to another planet in order to solve,
like all those things were just like introduced really quickly
and so somehow it’s like, oh, it’s pretty seamless,
makes sense, so I thought I was pretty impressed.
Maybe I’m not gonna explain myself right?
I thought that stuff was done really well.
More of the day-to-day science stuff that he’s doing,
that him and Rocky were doing together,
whether that be when his thing explodes
’cause they’re all the astrophages leaking out.
I feel like in the book, there was a ton more into that
and also when they’re breeding the astrophage on the ships
or they’re breeding the other things that eat the astrophage.
I feel like there’s just like a lot of that going on
that he and Rocky were doing together
that maybe wasn’t fully covered,
but I do think, and on the whole, just to kind of,
I mean, it was already two hours and 30 minutes
so I don’t need more explanation of it.
I think it was well done.
It just didn’t have those details, but that’s to be expected
because it’s a book going into a movie, so I was fine with it.
I also love just tying back into the rock thing
is they added Carl because they needed a Rocky on Earth
to, you needed a buddy.
Yeah, sure.
She founds things out of ’cause otherwise,
they’re just, you know, they’re like, yeah, we need this guy.
And that was a big difference of putting in the book
of the movie too is in the book,
it’s almost a surprise when Rocky comes
because you just think he’s off on his own
and you think it’s similar to the Martian
where you’re just like, well, just another book about guy
off on his own and then the in-aliant comes, you’re like,
what the hell?
I did not know this book was about that.
So it’s like halfway into the book that that occurs.
Whereas here, it’s like, yeah, it’s a buddy, buddy,
book with an alien, you know?
So our buddy, buddy movie with an alien, so yeah.
Yeah, ’cause in the book he was doing a bunch of stuff
himself before Rocky.
Yeah, Yeah, yeah.
And you could tell he was like lonely,
it was pretty, but it was almost like savior, you know,
coming, so.
Yeah, okay.
I don’t think I had any other hates.
Caroline enjoyed, she, I think her stock up here
was love languages.
There’s a lot in that physical contact.
There’s a lot of physical contacts between Ryan Gosling
and Rocky granted it was like through some glass
or whatever, but a lot of hugging, you know?
She liked the hugs.
She liked the alien and people hugs.
some dance moves showing off dance moves as well?
Yeah, some dance moves were had,
some, I liked that part, that was great.
And the goodbye was tough.
The first goodbye before they actually remet, you know?
It’s like, God, like losing your best friend.
And also like the person that saved you, you know?
They were on like, they were basically on a life vessel
together, like a life raft.
And.
(dramatic music)
I had two questions for you, but it wasn’t enough.
Yeah, sure, yeah, I’d love to.
the first question was, is there any chance
that this guy that, I mean, we’re seeing a guy that thinks
he’s not funny and not great, not smart?
Is there any chance that this is like a total recall thing
where he actually is all those things?
He’s just a middle school teacher and he like takes some pill
and now he’s like saving the world
and he’s the, he’s Ryan Gosling and he’s funny
and he’s best looking at all these things?
Mm.
you think of the end that you should just
had him wake up in his bed and just be like,
Oh, that was just, you know?
Well, it’s like, I was like fight club thick as like, you know,
if you were trying to think of the Brad Pitt version
of a middle school teacher would be, it’s this guy, right?
Like, it’s literally producing the funniest, smartest,
best person ever, that’s a middle school teacher.
Like, it doesn’t make any sense, right?
Yeah, he was just held on to All this pain
for being rejected from his one idea that, yeah.
It’s also, it doesn’t sound like, like,
who, his idea was that you don’t need carbon or oxygen,
whatever the case was, to make a life form.
And yeah, it’s a, it’s a far out idea,
but that’s the point, right?
It’s kind of ridiculous that who’d be ostracized
for that considering there’s people in this
science community that think we’re on a simulation,
isn’t that a little bit more unrealistic?
Yeah, we’re not even in, we’re not real, nothing’s real,
it’s all a program game.
It’s like, “Yo, that’s a good point.”
We’ve got quantum physics where matter just appears
and disappears.
It’s like, yeah, so this guy’s thinking,
isn’t that also what science fiction is all about?
And I know it’s fiction and not science,
but you have to have some of that to then get to the science
is like to have outside the box ideas,
it’s not like the laugh this guy out of his, out of his profession
and make him a middle school teacher
and then he’s just like hurt for the rest of his life
and can’t form relationships.
You know?
Yeah, yeah.
Seems a little bit strange.
That’s all right, that’s why I was like,
oh no, something’s going on here.
But and then the second one was, so in the movie,
they say that he could actually,
they fueled up his ship and he could actually go back.
Would you go back?
Like I don’t know, I think the flight back
would be like 10 years by yourself.
so I was confused.
They had his ship ready to go.
Did he go back or did he not go back?
He was just still deciding that,
but you could tell he’s happy with teaching the kids.
My assumption would be he wouldn’t,
but in the book he stuck there,
so it’s not like really an option.
Yeah, I don’t know.
I mean, if we just take the book out of it,
I think he found something on Ered or whatever the place is
that he didn’t have back home.
You know, he didn’t have, he clearly didn’t have anyone
that he was missing necessarily.
He’s got property too.
I mean, you can’t find out about these days.
That’s too expensive.
so Yeah, and the kids obviously love the ship out of them.
He, you know, so that itch that he had back home
was being scratched here.
So yeah, maybe not.
I mean, I don’t know what kind of relations he’s having
or whatnot, but, you know,
(laughing)
pretty hard to, you know, do a rock, but.
Between a rock and a hard place,
so they know what I mean, guys.
(laughing)
So yeah, with that, we can end the pot.
(laughing)
Actually, the one thing I did have in,
this is more of a Easter egg or something,
but when they were going through the rocky voices,
the guy who did the audio book, which is great.
He was really good.
He was one of the voices that they went through
that they were like, nah, I don’t think so.
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All right, Keith, out of five, out of five,
what are you giving this one?
Yeah, I think this is a rare one
where the more I thought about the more I liked it,
so usually it’s the opposite.
I don’t think I’m gonna give it a 4.33 out of five,
so not the 4.5 range, I think that’s a elite company,
but definitely better than a 4.25, so in between.
Four and one third.
yeah.
Well, it’s always tough math,
because I usually do things out of four
on my own personal movie things,
but we have to go to five here.
So the wife gave it a three, five, to three, seven, five,
and I kind of started lower,
but I think I’m gonna go up to a similar range,
so I think I would go, as far as I have to talking about it,
I think I would go three, five, three, seven, five,
and the thing that defined that–
out of five?
out of five, yeah.
And I think I defined that for me,
which I liked it for sure, that means it’s good,
that means it’s good for me.
The thing that bumped it up a little bit
was kind of like the would you watch this again,
and the answer is yes, you know?
If it came out on streaming services,
I’d be like, hey, you wanna watch
that Project Hill Mary again?
‘Cause I missed these guys.
They were fun together, I missed them.
They had great, great relationship.
I also, I feel like I watch a lot of movies
that are just so average that this actually was different.
It didn’t insist upon itself.
It wasn’t a superhero movie,
even though it kind of times it was a little bit, so.
Yeah, I think you gotta almost boost it up because of that.
Okay, well, Project Hill Mary,
we’ve not done the movie in the book, Prop Stuss.
What do we have coming up next?
1984 book, you know, you said you have no notes on it,
but I got all the notes, don’t worry.
I got the notes.
I’m also gonna watch the movie.
There was a movie that came out in 1984,
about 1984.
They should make a new movie on that, I feel like.
Yeah, I agree.
But John Hurt plays the main character in the book,
so who plays the bad guy in V for Vendetta,
which is kind of funny.
Oh, okay, Yeah, All right.
Interesting.
So yeah, we’ll do that.
Big brother is coming for you,
and yeah, we’ll catch you for 1984.
Indeed.
All right, All right.
Yeah, I know.